• limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    In my area, the social structures to constructively or destructively use violence are missing; leaving only a small minority of people looking for a fight. And often they fail to meet up with others looking also for a fight: leading to quiet nights of introspection.

    And I don’t think this is going to change. Which is going to frustrate a lot of people up and down the political spectrum. At the same time I think that this is for the good. It keeps people safe

    Anyone remember how the Syrian civil war started ? Most of the idealistic people who liked fighting were gone after a few months.

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    17 days ago

    Basically a neurological take on the age old “the ends can never justify the means” take.

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          17 days ago

          But “make sure your motivation is to help the system” isn’t related to “the ends justify the means” at all.

          The OP is claiming that if done correctly, the ends justify the means.

          I’m not criticizing your idea that the ends don’t justify the means. It’s only that your reply is a non sequitur to the OP.

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            17 days ago

            Well, my understanding on the OPs text is that the means necessarily shape the ends, but instead of a sociological interpretation, it is an equally valid neurological one.

            And this is in turn the exact same argument as that the ends should never justify the means, because if you use the wrong means you will never reach the ends you want.

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              17 days ago

              The OP states it is justified to use violence against the right people to achieve your ends.

              “The ends never justify the means.” is a statement that violence is never the right answer.