• Pyotr@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    With the power these amflow units put out, they aren’t bikes. They’re more e-moto with Pedals that act as a thumb throttle.

    So this market didn’t need to be “broken open”. People will be out there with their e-motos in places where they aren’t allowed, and will end up in more access being closed off to bikers in general.

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      120nm would be so great for cargo ebikes, especially ones with cargo containers.

      My non-cargo ebike is great at 80nm, but can only move me up a steep hill at about 9 mph @ 1,300w (52v) with a gross weight under 275lbs. Our city has steep hills, haha. Can’t imagine carrying a Costco sack of rice, various groceries, a heavy lock, and a child or two on 80nm.

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        Us heavier riders appreciate the power too. At 100kg I’m getting lean, and I’m not lean.

        It’s similar to not needing a v8 engine in your car, but dam is it nice to have the power there when you need it.

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        4 months ago

        I’ve yet to see one of these motors on an ebike, but thats certainly a perfect market for this system, far more so than calling itself an eMTB

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      In the US ebikes can output 750W and still legally be an ebike. I feel like everyone forgets that and thinks the 250W EU limit applies here too.

      Also more torque doesn’t necessarily mean more power.

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        4 months ago

        Well, 1000w is larger than 750w so it does not matter where you are, its still above the limit.

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            “May be” and “could” aren’t necessarily intrepretations of the spec.

            An in shape MTB rider puts out 200-250w. This is still 4-5x what a human can do. Its going to cause an increase in damage to trails, and vastly increase the rate of accidents - both of the rider and others.

            I rarely to never see people on “ebikes” show up to repair trails where I live, but they’re always on the trails…

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              They’re still limited to 20 mph for Class 1, a lot slower than a pedal bike would go down a hill, the extra power really only gets used going up hills.

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      4 months ago

      torque isn’t speed. In my area half of the ebikes on the market are useless because they can’t go up the hills. I cooked my first ebike going less than walking speed uphill.

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    I’m not sure you guys need a high torque bike but rather a law change and mass production.