In explaining exactly why this is so bleak, Klippenstein references the dystopian science fiction movie Minority Report, where people are arrested not for anything they’ve done but for “pre-crime” predicted by people with psychic powers. In this real-world case, the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:
anti-Americanism,
anti-capitalism,
anti-Christianity,
support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
extremism on migration,
extremism on race,
extremism on gender
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.
anti-Capitalism
Gonna tell my chud in-laws that complaining about gas or grocery prices is anti-Free Market and they’re committing a pre-crime
The irony: left-wing structural analysis actually pushes people away from lone-wolf attacks and toward mass organizing for change.
That’s not really an irony. That’s just the sort of violence fascism fears. Lone wolves rarely amount to anything. Organized action is an actual show of power they have to worry about
if anything, lone wolf shit works in their favor
“see! the scary leftists are out to get you! we will keep all True Patriots™ safe by drone striking the dsa”
I hit 10/10 indicators let’s fucking goooo throw my ass in federal prison
(I better see you libs in there too, hexbear meetup is scheduled during the 1 hour of exercise time at ADX Florence)
they’re gonna deathsquad us man
you’re just gonna be asleep one night, your posts flagging you in palantir like you came up on a Phoenix Program list, and an operator is just gonna make it look like you were the victim of senseless street violence.
“federal prison” give me a break, this is a pretext for political culling.
Well, that’s a hell of an act. What do you call it?
spoiler
Ill bring the toilet wine, what flavor yall thinkin?
wine
Are you one of those ‘champagne socialists’ I hear so much about
I mean I guess we can add some sprite or something if you want champaign. Its tough to make that in maximum security
Smuggling yeast into prison and accidentally giving myself Auto-Brewery syndrome
Intentionally giving myself auto brewery syndrome so I don’t need to smuggle yeast into prison
the water from C block has a nice tang from the old lead pipes that’s the best to use
Asking to be sent to an American prison to hang out with my comrades
You’re in-line being marched into the death camp
The left-liberal your chained to is still on his ‘if only pepole had voted for Kamala this wouldn’t be happening’
shitOne of the guards overhears and shouts and you to be quiet or you’ll be first in line for the Tesla death pods
Your look over at the guard, and who do you see but…
spoiler
extremism on race
“extremism on race” here meaning “not racist”
Also if you acknowledge that white people have ever done anything bad in history
extremism
Your excess of melanin is extremist behavior
Good article and lots of points to discuss. But man, a Trotsky quote (albeit a good one) coupled with whining about “authoritarianism,” then this line:
Anyone who cares about living in a free society needs to reject the notion that certain ideological perspectives need to be monitored and contained, regardless of the nature of those perspectives. Even genuinely vile ideas need to be fought at the level of ideas.
Jacobin isn’t beating the western Marxism allegations
living in a free society
lmao yea when your boss can fire you for objecting to genocide on social media that’s fine, what’s important is whether you can debate the humanity of black people
I fucking hate liberals. if you force them they will acknowledge material constraints but only until the next time they open their object-impermanent mouths
Even western marxism is being nice, thats just plain old Liberalism lmao
Even genuinely vile ideas need to be fought at the level of ideas.
And what’s the contingency plan for when you don’t win?
Got in an argument with this annoying POS saying “just make better propaganda no need to limit speech” like yeah sure ur freshly decolonized country is gonna be able to fend off mercenaries trained across the border that will coupe your state but also you have to invest a bunch of money, time, and energy to win the propaganda campaign against the richest country in the world.
Western leftists need to eat rocks
I wonder if the class character of the ownership of major media platforms has any impact on the bAtTLe oF iDeAs. oh well, I’m comfortable… better not think about it too hard!
I call my fists ideas.
Tattooing “idea” across my knuckles on both hands and then asking fascists to debate me in the arena of ideas.
“Are there civil liberties for the fascists? Are they gonna be allowed their newspapers and their radio programs, are they gonna be able to keep all their farms?”
It’ never even tried
I was just moving into the second season on this show and Netflix pulled it. fuckin’ rentier bullshit
EDIT: oh hey it’s on Bezos Prime
If i had skill I would a make a bot that comments whenever someone brings up a streaming service; it’d recommend a list of trusted VPN providers and a ‘how to’ for setting up torrents, so some people will stop supporting these damn data mining bastards. I know boycottings about as useful as “votes”, but it feels like stealing which is nice
stick with it, it’s a good show
is that like precum when you’re close
Hey officer I’m keeping my vital essences to myself - don’t get the cumming police involved please
Many of those listed things have been explicitly adjudicated as “free speech” by SCOTUS.
But good luck to him on arresting 70-80% of the population, I guess.
The supreme court doesn’t give a fuck anymore
It never really did, but a conservative court will always side with conservative prez when push comes to shove
In more recent times they used to try and justify their rulings, but now they can’t even be bothered.
scotus will rubber stamp anything he does
yeah. like myriad anti-communist clauses on immigration and party operations
I used to be anti-Christianity, but I am more anti American Christian at this point. I am an atheist but the Bible pretty clearly says the typical American Christian is going to burn in hell forever which is a beautiful thing to believe in.
American evangelicalism is a worship of white supremacy with a very thin layer of Christian vocabulary
American Evangelicalism (and the tradcath heresy) are open worship of the Demiurge at this point.
I hate this take. Evangelical Christianity is just as valid a read on the Bible than any other. Any read on the Bible that attempts to be ideologically consistent has literally no choice but to ignore the verses they don’t like.
yeah it’s pure copium.
Most world views have the same problem. You and I have probably just not realized all the things we are inconsistent about. Most of the time, when these things are pointed out to me, I try to consider them with an open mind. Yes, I do think the Christianity people find in the Bible will reflect their own views, and if those views are bad, the church will be bad. I sort of expect to see a resurgence of Christian Socialism as if people organize and left wing views become more common.
This right here.
Same, it took me an embarrassing amount of time to chill out with Christianity as a whole, since I used to go to an American mega church as a kid.
These fuckers would kill Jesus without realizing it was him.
“No OnE sHoUlD bE aRrEsTeD fOr WoRdS! yOu CaNt KiLl An IdEa!”
“How dare you hold illegal opinions! You should be arrested for not indulging in groupthink!”
There’s people on the right who are shitting their pants at this because they think whoever comes in power next will make it illegal to say the nword
I expect to be commissar of the revolutionary provisional government by 2029 so this is actually true
i want to live in the world chuds think we live in
no officer, im pro-capitalism…
…pro-state capitalism… Heh.
pulls out giant zweihänder with “produktivkräfte” engraved on it from behind the massive deng portrait on my wall
Prostate capitalism? I think we’re already experiencing that
This is probably more performative nonsense and won’t really change what’s already happening, but it makes me irrationally angry. The bastards want to kill us for having the gall to complain about them killing us. The planet’s gonna cook and the vulnerable will suffer and they’ll keep the fires going until someone finally stops them, all in the name of protecting an imagined feeling of superiority. One hopes that there are future historians and they’ll look back on this time as a profound dark age but I haven’t been optimistic about that in a while.
- “Ah, but censoring anti-americanism is anti-american. So Drumpf is the real pre-criminal here”
If there’s one thing I can count on these twitching, slavering fascists to do, it’s overplay their hand too early and piss off tons of people who might otherwise not have cared. A Kamala or Biden 2 regime would have just adopted some boring and convoluted technocratic framework for doing the same thing in a way that was hard to notice and harder to follow, continuing the salami tactics. These other nazis just can’t wait to jump the gun, and break into a sprint while frantically seig-heiling with both arms as soon as they lose patience. Our pool of potential allies who are now undeniably in the same boat as us dirty commies has practically doubled in size overnight.
Chuds kind of tried this tactic before, but the online left really needs to organize and get its shit together.
Next time you see a hog online, please just say “thank you for pushing people to the left.”
