The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health kills thousands on a regular basis
EDIT: … thanks for the clarification (I’ll remember it from now on)
Luigi has yet to be convicted of anything, but the sentiment remains.
That’s even better
Luigi allegedly killed one man
United Health most definitely kills thousands on a regular basis as a matter of company savings and profits
Good. money was made on denying people healthcare. Mangione (allegedly) killed one person, but the CEO was responsible for the deaths of thousands. didn’t the UH CEO also create an AI to automatically deny claims too? what a shithead
Have they tried not being evil by design?
I can’t even start to understand how a healthcare organization has a stock price. They should be nonprofits to start with.
And this brings up the other thing they are struggling to recover from. They were sued by blackrock for taking care of people too well.
Blackrock, that investment firm that you can’t even divest from because your pension is tied to it. Which really peels back some layers on root cause analysis. Because blackrock and vanguard get management of this money pretty much by default when there is an institutional pension they have fuck you money. As in fuck you, it’s my money till 40 years in the future.
The Healthcare United CEO is just middle management. All he’s doing is taking orders in hopes doing that enough means his company survives. If he doesn’t then the private equity firms and banks just fund the guy who will.
Larry Fink is the real management.
However, while it’s understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember “there is no easy answer” for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.
There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.
The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.
The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.
They’ve brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.
The shooting “tarnished UnitedHealthcare’s reputation and disrupted its operational stability,” Ge Bai, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Maryland, told Newsweek.
No, it did not, don’t pin that one on Luigi.
UnitedHealthcare did that all on their lonesome, by profiteering on people’s pain and suffering.
Let’s not mess with Costco and costplusdrug please. Not all ceo are bad.
This is how they learn! Operant* Conditioning.
Fucking excellent. Hope we see a hundred more Luigi’s.
Whilst, I understand your emotion. Always remember violence is never the answer. While, I agree one of the consequences of consensus based discussion is giving idiots a voice but by doing so is the only way forward.
You would let nazi Germany take over the world instead of going to war, because violence is never the answer?
Violence is absolutely the fucking answer sometimes.
I don’t give a single shit about the welfare or public approval of any large profit corporation. I care even less about UHC specifically.
Anyone who still works there is complicit. The entire health insurance industry needs to be taken down and everyone involved shunned from society forever. It’s an atrocity.
Hey, where do you work? - Oh I work in the health insurance industry - That’s disgusting, I am leaving.
I would absolutely have this exact interaction. Including anyone working in finance.
Are you Winnie the Pooh? Because this is blustery as fuck.
I work in health insurance, and I just can’t bear the thought that you and I might never be friends.
But looking for a job is hard, and honestly this one is really good for me. It suits my narrow skillset, and it gives me a great work-life balance, which is the main thing I’m looking for while my kids are young. I quit my more demanding oil job to take this one so I could be there for them.
But if you have some kind of plan for how I could reform the entire industry by quitting my job at the bottom rung of a middling insurance company, I’ll gladly do it. I could always go back to working in finance.
Otherwise this is all just thoughtless, impotent bluster, untempered by life experience.
In real life, most of the people who work at insurance companies are doing their best to keep the system running, because people do depend on it despite its flaws, and I don’t have any more power to change it than you do.
I’m not a ‘we won’t be friends’ person. But I do think this is a really poor response. Who you work for is one of the biggest ethical decisions you make. You take years of training and skills and you use them for 40+ hours a week to… Well, support the actions of an industry that brings misery to millions of people.
Getting a job is hard, but it’s not impossible. And you’re choosing avoiding that discomfort over making life worse for people. You may be but a tiny cog in a giant machine, but if that cog has to turn you’re part of the problem.
I know this is gonna come off as aggressive. I have no beef with you personally, and you are but one of hundreds of millions of people shrugging and working in destructive of unethical enterprises. But that shrugging is the system. Collectively the system doesn’t work without you all dedicating half your waking life to it.
I do wish you the best, but hope you’ll eventually do the hard thing. Because it’s the right thing.
You make it sound like I’m working at a concentration camp.
The reason the US healthcare industry hasn’t been completely overhauled yet is that it does still help people.
If doesn’t help enough people. It’s not good enough. It needs to change. But the harm it causes is a side effect, not the main goal.
If every cog suddenly resigned tomorrow, it would cause catastrophic and immediate harm to millions of people. Besides, that’s not how change happens.
It’s not the “right” thing to do to miss my kids’ formative years looking for another job, for absolutely no practical benefit to anyone.
The main goal is also not helping people. The goal is money. Helping people is a side effect. If those corporations were to have more difficulty finding people to work those jobs because people find them morally repugnant, then the business would do worse, and another system could take its place. As it is, you are helping to entrench their position while wailing that NOT doing that would be SO HARD!!
That doesn’t make any sense. The level of outrage that would be required to pull off what you’re describing is far higher than what would be required to change the system through other means.
If people can’t come together to vote for healthcare reform, do you honestly think there’s any chance that a workers’ strike will spontaneously break out? It’s not an actionable plan. The practical outcome of me quitting is that my life and my family’s life gets worse. That’s it. There’s no benefit to anyone.
And yeah, it is fucking hard. I’m in my 40s with crippling ADHD and a narrow skillset. My wife has a similarly severe physical handicap, so I’m working my ass off every day to give my kids a healthy, happy childhood, bringing them to daycare and school, cooking healthy meals, and trying to give them a safe, loving environment to grow up in while the world crumbles into fascism around me.
I’ve worked at “hard” jobs. I’ve woken up at dawn just to get my kids ready, just so I can work all day and pick them up at sunset, just so I can get home, cook dinner, and get them to bed, never at any point having a chance to spend a minute of quality time with them.
I’m lucky and grateful to have a job that allows me a good work-life balance.
This purity test is bullshit, and I think it comes from a place of privilege and inexperience. You’re unironically being the “Yet you live in a society. Curious!” meme right now.
Don’t worry. We won’t be friends.
Well, maybe one day. You never know.
But if you have some kind of plan for how I could reform the entire industry by quitting my job at the bottom rung of a middling insurance company, I’ll gladly do it.
Translation: Someone else has to be responsible for fixing everything before I will take any responsibility for my participation in the obviously corrupt and exploitive system.
You seem to have misunderstood my point. Such a plan couldn’t exist, because that’s not how change works.
I work in health insurance, and I just can’t bear the thought that you and I might never be friends.
Then stop working for Satan, and maybe you’ll be able to be their friend. Oh, wait, let’s check what else you might say first:
But looking for a job is hard, and honestly this one is really good for me
Gotcha, you can’t stop working for Satan because it’s suuuuch a goooood jooooooob! Fuck off and die like the people who have to deal with your industry, scum
