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A picture of the Ben Affleck Smoking meme, with the caption “Me seeing people on reddit telling other people to go to lemmy.world”

  • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
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    10 days ago

    I don’t hate communists. The reasons I don’t recommend those instances are:
    lemmy[.]ml - Censorship of pro-ukraine posts and comments
    lemmygrad - see above; also defederated a lot.
    lemmy[.]world - too big, has a lot of toxic people, some moderation issues
    hex - defederated from most of the mainstream fediverse.

      • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
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        10 days ago

        Some people don’t come here to talk politics.
        There are some people who may just use reddit for non-political stuff, like crafts, gaming and news from their country. Most of that stuff is on lemmy.world.

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          We do all that too, we’re just cooler. We have DIY comms, anime comms, I run the gaming discord where we mostly just chill and play Foxhole ARMA and project zomboid.

          My point is that everything is political and for people that want a nice cozy space that is vigilantly purged of reactionaries and bigots it’s a breath of fresh air from the reddit environment that carries over to a lot of the big “default” - as you call them - instances.

          Shit half the posts on hexbear are silly jokes, weird special interest stuff, personal projects, or random bean posting. We are just very very militant and fairly unified when topics of politics come up and it has roots in irreverent commie shitposting so that will always be there.

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        No thanks, people like that make reddit a miserable experience. Its the same here.

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            i’m not getting anything from your comment either, I don’t even know what you are talking about. reactionary? people shit on me?

            It’s just a miserable reading experience even when I don’t interact. Hopefully blocking certain instances helps, but what makes me wary is that blocking certain people for example seems to hide the whole threads if someone in the thread is blocked.

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              I don’t even know what you are talking about. reactionary?

              Wait, are you getting involved in political discussions without any familiarity with actual politics? Or even a willingness to google terms to pretend you know what people are talking about?

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                What terms should I google then? I’m familiar with the terms i’ve seen in the thread this far… Like, I know what reactionary means, I just don’t know why they are using that word. … Are they suggesting disliking communist content is… reactionary?

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                  Like, I know what reactionary means, I just don’t know why they are using that word. … Are they suggesting disliking communist content is… reactionary?

                  Are you suggesting opposing progressive changes to society isn’t reactionary?

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                    I’m suggesting that communism is not progressive. But i’m not here to argue politics with fools, just to be clear.

      • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
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        No, some instances block hex.

        Also, .ml’s modlog shows a clear pro-russia bias. People should oppose the U.S’s imperialism, but supporting russia (even critically) isn’t the answer. I feel like hexbear has a more diverse range of views compared to .ml or grad though.

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          Was? No, the nazis are still in charge. I said government, don’t pull that shit where you make no distinction between the people and their jailers. Ukrainians? Probably mostly cool, haven’t met them. Their government? Absolutely nazis, absolutely put in place by us to do nazis shit.

          I had a whole thing written about Operation GLADIO and America’s almost century-long history of doing exactly this all over the world, how the word “Tankie” comes from the time the Soviet Union stopped them from doing it to Hungary in 1956, but then I remembered a picture is worth a thousand words. Here’s several pictures:

          That’s a picture of Stephan Bandera by the way, head of the OUN-B organization which participated in the Holocaust. Here he is in his in his spiffy military uniform:

          Eh, times change, right? It’s not as if any recent high ranking government officials have been see-

          Ah. Hm.

          Well, it’s not like they’re doing hitler youth shit, right?

          God damn, what the hell is going on? Is there some kind of documented, easy-to follow trail of obvious causality that I can use to make sense of this??

          Of course there is, and it’s only a minute and a half long!

          https://youtu.be/j6e7MGUmxgU

          Okay, joking is done. Real talk, do you honestly believe the obviously bullshit narrative that Ukraine isn’t a country whose people live under the Nazi boot?

          • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
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            By nazi country, I meant ruled by nazis. Sorry if that was unclear.

            Even if Ukraine has a “nazi problem” russia’s invasion is nothing but imperialism.

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              I appreciate the clarification, the trap of assuming class unity within a country is one that these conversations unfortunately fall into easily.

              I have to ask though, what imperialism means to you. It wasn’t too long ago that most people made fun of communists for using the word, and now it’s a popular word to use but I never see it defined. What’s your understanding of it?

              Also, why do you put nazi problem in quotes, as if to distance yourself from accepting the idea?