Bluesky, which uses it, has been opened to federation now, and the standard basically just looks better than ActivityPub. Has anyone heard about a project to make a Lemmy-style “link aggregator” service on it?

  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
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    4 days ago

    ha, no… bluesky is not open to federation. they control the only router and do not allow connectivity to routers not controlled by them.

    there isnt a single non-bluesky controlled instance that can federate natively with bluesky.

    bluesky is just twitter with a little more user-controllable data sourcing. not that theres anything wrong with that, but its certainly not a part of any federation.

    e. suggested reading: https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgOPEnglish
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      4 days ago

      It’s a good blog post, thanks. I made a quick summery elsewhere in the thread.

      It’s really unfortunate that we’ve ended up with two populated protocols for federation, both of which have a major flaw. In our case, it’s no established support for moving accounts. In theirs, its a component that’s so bulky the federatability is questionable (and no federated DMs).

      • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
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        4 days ago

        And they are either in for one of the following:

        • a $30 Million lesson where they learn that they will have to reinvent ActivityPub in order to be “properly” decentralized
        • a rug pull where they come up with a second relay like Bluesky but fork to give exclusive access for large institutions and the enterprise.
        • jackalope@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          4 days ago

          There are important features that ATPro has that activity pub doesn’t. I’d prefer activity pub be the winner but they really need to improve some things. Namely, identity. Bluesky identity is more portable.

          • dpflug@kbin.earth
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            4 days ago

            Identity was already solved with Zot aka Nomad, which is part of the Fediverse and easier to implement than ATProto.

            It’s mostly been ignored because it’s just not that important to people, apparently.

            • jackalope@lemmy.mlEnglish
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              4 days ago

              It’s not implemented in mastodon or lemmy though. I’m not saying it can’t be implemented, but it hasn’t been in any platform.

              • dpflug@kbin.earth
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                8 hours ago

                No, but the software that implements it also implements ActivityPub, so you can get nomadic identity and also still interact with the rest of the Fediverse.

          • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
            1·
            4 days ago

            We still don’t need ATProto for that. ActivityPods solves that.

            ActivityPub itself is built around the principle that the server owns your identity: the best you can do is abandon an identity (i.e, your actor URL) and tell everyone else (via the Move Activity) that you are adopting a new identity.