• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    The government said that Berrios’ apprehension was driven in part because she is an associate of the violent gang MS-13, which has Salvadoran roots.

    According to the current regime and their brownshirts, everyone with either Latin family or with a Latin name is associated with a violent gang, and they don’t bother to demonstrate it in court.

    This is exactly the hell we’ve been trying to prevent for fifty years, and failed.

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      8 months ago

      This is sadly also getting to be familiar:

      “No, it’s false. My mother, she works really hard since she was really little, and she never had anything to do with gangs or anything like that,” Cruz Berrios said during a recent interview on CNN, adding that her mother came to the U.S. in part to flee gang activity.

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            You’re assuming that they haven’t already got their proof. People are arrested and held until trial all the time.

            This person hasn’t been thrown in jail or deported yet btw. They got arrested like someone would when they’ve been accused of a crime. It’s now up to them to prove that she is a criminal or she’ll be let go.

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            8 months ago

            That’s fine, we don’t like you either :)

            You guys are insane. You’re saying that we should just believe everyone when they say they’re not a criminal lol. Criminals would never lie, would they? Hahahaha

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              I love y’all. My old man moved from Australia to the USA. If like to think if my mother was Australian and my father American, I’d be living a happier life. Enjoy the Barbie

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              I guess you’re the expert on criminals since your entire shithole country descended from them

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                8 months ago

                Nah they weren’t criminals, they said it themselves :). And you believe them, as shown in this topic :)

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                  8 months ago

                  Please stop talking to me you inbred retard

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    Everything is such a disaster. I can’t imagine any value in sensationalizing a headline and article like this that isn’t motivated by driving traffic and distracting well meaning people whichever direction they can for their own capitalistic purposes.

    Fixed: “Associate and suspected MS-13 member detained by ICE.

    Nobody wants to watch their mom getting apprehended but it’s part of the game, you don’t get to play with gangs if you aren’t willing to have your life get a little messy.

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      8 months ago

      ah, well if the gestapo insists she’s a criminal, then it must be true! they’ve never been known to make a mistake or flat out lie before, it’s absolutely unheard of 🤡

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        8 months ago

        I don’t support ICE or any of the fascist hate fueled garbage going on right now if that’s your inference from my post. My critique is the baseless distraction of the sensationalist article that does nothing other than undermine actual ongoing atrocities.

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      8 months ago

      You are being weird about so some getting kidnapped off the street with no allegations that require evidence being made?

      I hereby accuse you of association with MS13. Would it be acceptable to disappear you based on my accusation? No? Then fuck off, you are being a hateful little fuck.

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        If you have a federal investigation showing that then I better have a damn good alibi because you don’t just slip, trip, and fall into a gang

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          If you have a federal investigation showing that

          They don’t, that’s the whole point. They made it the fuck up.

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      8 months ago

      The 5th amendment tends to require indictment by grand jury before any criminal charges.

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      8 months ago

      you don’t get to play with gangs if you aren’t willing to have your life get a little messy.

      what evidence is there of this claim?

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            Public evidence? No. It’s speculative sensational garbage reporting. Reads like a distraction from so much legit issues with foundational merit currently going on.

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              First, you are clearly not engaging. Being associated with gang members is not a crime. The entire premise for this kidnappings is illegal. They aren’t arresting her for immigration status, they are arresting her for associating with people, which is in no way a crime. This is extrajudicial behavior and the only reason I am able to determine that you are OK with it is cause she wasn’t a citizen.

              Kidnappings people off the street and sending them elsewhere without due process is a distraction…

              People being disappeared is a distraction…

              What the fuck?

              “They aren’t citizens!” You’ll say. To which I say, “go ahead and prove your citizenship, without due process, and when you can’t satisfy what I want, which in any case is to disappear you regardless, I’ll just disappear you anyways.”

              Seriously, we have been given so many reasons to not trust these people, and here you are licking their boots so that abhorrent policies can be put into place. Nah, fuck off with that shit.

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                I’m not going to waste my energy on criminal gang members. All good with destroying other peoples lives and then expect anyone to give a fuck about them? We have enough problems that deserve attention, bloviating your undying love to criminal gang members doesn’t mean jack shit to me.

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                  8 months ago

                  All good. I dont take the opinions of gang members seriously, so I be disregarding anything you say.