• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    I find it funny that Lia Thomas had an “unfair advantage” that helped her win one college championship (out of multiple she participated in) while staying far behind Katie Ledecky’s record time but Michael Phelps was just “naturally gifted” while shattering olympic records.

    Error 404, logic not found.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I’m always stuck on Lance Armstrong, a guy who came out of chemotherapy with a seeming supernatural endurance and won seven consecutive Tour De France titles. Dude got the endorsement of the US Postal Service. He was a national celebrity for at least a decade. Damn near dodged the entire doping scandal to boot, because “No its fine, I’m being treated for testicular cancer” was a get-out-of-piss-testing-free card.

      Nevermind the entire early '00s HGH-powered Barry Bonds / Mark McGuire / Roger Clemmens / Sammy Sosa baseball era. Or fucking Wrestling! How many pro-Wrestlers were zooted to the gills on pharmaceuticals?

      Nobody seemed to care, then. But now, we’re supposed to pretend estrogen is a performance enhancing drug?

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        8 months ago

        Na, doping is something else. As the other comment said, they don’t say estrogen is a PED, they say testosterone suppression and HRT don’t matter.

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          8 months ago

          they say testosterone suppression and HRT don’t matter

          Until a teenager wants beta-blockers to prevent the onset of puberty, at which point its child abuse, sure.

  • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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    8 months ago

    My question to transphobic republicans is that would you be still against trans women in sports if they ate a vegan diet? Since you all love to claim that vegans are “weak and unhealthy”

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    8 months ago

    ELI5 this for me, I’m not even on this sub but whatever.

    Everyone loves Messi, the dude takes a metric shit ton of forbidden drugs because he has a medical issue, wins a WC and competes because everyone recognises and accepts a medical condition is an acceptable reason to have exceptions.

    Then, enter trans athletes. They have a medical condition, they take drugs to remediate the fact they were born in the wrong body, they win because the karma for the immeasurable amount of suffering they endure is being good at a random sport. Everyone dislikes that and calls it cheating.

    I’m not an ally or anything. Being in the EU and seeing the fandom of Messi, can someone please explain to me why that cunt of a tax dodger gets an exception and Mary from down the street, who just won the district football competition, and wants to live her life in peace, is called a cheater.

    Just make it make sense, and while you’re at it, explain why the fuck is this a discussion that permeates the airwaves almost weekly.

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      8 months ago

      I’m gonna be killed for this, but is the number of successes the same for F2M as it is for M2F? I’m genuinely curious.

      I’ll gladly delete this if it’s terrible.

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        No clue, nor am I inclined to use time to find out.

        At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter. Success at sports is not only dedication, it’s also luck in the genetic lottery, regardless of the sport.

        I believe I’m an outlier in this thought, I think that segregation between male and female sports make no sense.

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          Well if you don’t do the segregation you will find that in some sports almost no afab people will ever reach the top.

          Some sports are of course worse than others in this regard.

          And even if there is no physical barrier, historically male dominated sports struggle to find female athletes/players. See for example chess.

          How would you solve this?

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            8 months ago

            It’s not something that needs to be solved. It’s sports. Tax sports income at 90% above 1M a year and watch it stabilise.