Point to me the trade wars and civil rights rollbacks that happened during those times. We just had to keep doing the thing and keep pushing the needle towards progressive ideas and socialist policies that help people. That’s ALL we had to do together, it was working for a while.
But nope. Everyone lost their attention spans because social media and russian bots amplifying the worst of all sides of every issue until everyone said “fuck it, I don’t care, I rather see drama than boring, slow, incremental progress.”
edit: I am fully aware of how absolutely wicked Obama was, I don’t care in this context, we were making PROGRESS, even if small amounts, your knee-jerk desire to educate me about how bad the system is on both sides just makes me think you’re not reading and feel entitled to something and you will be blocked. You’re a huge reason we’re in this mess. I’m fully convinced that most of you don’t actually want good outcomes and you just want to feel validated and recognized.
US gained the rights to legally murder its own citizens without due process under Obama.
Also loads of giving corporations and capital rights, and rolling back protective anti-investment gambling under Democrat administrations, which ate up the rights of non-capital.
Well I don’t fucking see anyone at all of any significant power even remotely considering OTHER means for progress, so I stand by what I said. We were making progress, now we’re not.
This is the same arguing-with-bricks situation I felt when I was saying if our only choices are Trump or establishment democrats we need to pick democrats because those are our only fucking choices unless enough people get on-board with a new strategy, which isn’t happening, hasn’t happened, won’t happen.
“Well Mister or Miss Democrat president isn’t great so I can’t vote” is why we’re here, and I’m done arguing with fucking entitled tankies and delusional internet addicts who think someone is coming.
Nobody is fucking coming. I’ve been through this for decades. Nobody is saving us. We are not getting ideal outcomes.
Won in 2012
Won in 2018
Won in 2020
Won in 2022
And this is where it got us.
Point to me the trade wars and civil rights rollbacks that happened during those times. We just had to keep doing the thing and keep pushing the needle towards progressive ideas and socialist policies that help people. That’s ALL we had to do together, it was working for a while.
But nope. Everyone lost their attention spans because social media and russian bots amplifying the worst of all sides of every issue until everyone said “fuck it, I don’t care, I rather see drama than boring, slow, incremental progress.”
edit: I am fully aware of how absolutely wicked Obama was, I don’t care in this context, we were making PROGRESS, even if small amounts, your knee-jerk desire to educate me about how bad the system is on both sides just makes me think you’re not reading and feel entitled to something and you will be blocked. You’re a huge reason we’re in this mess. I’m fully convinced that most of you don’t actually want good outcomes and you just want to feel validated and recognized.
US gained the rights to legally murder its own citizens without due process under Obama.
Also loads of giving corporations and capital rights, and rolling back protective anti-investment gambling under Democrat administrations, which ate up the rights of non-capital.
No part of this refutes anything I typed.
Murdering our own citizens without due process is massive civil rights rollback.
Well I don’t fucking see anyone at all of any significant power even remotely considering OTHER means for progress, so I stand by what I said. We were making progress, now we’re not.
This is the same arguing-with-bricks situation I felt when I was saying if our only choices are Trump or establishment democrats we need to pick democrats because those are our only fucking choices unless enough people get on-board with a new strategy, which isn’t happening, hasn’t happened, won’t happen.
“Well Mister or Miss Democrat president isn’t great so I can’t vote” is why we’re here, and I’m done arguing with fucking entitled tankies and delusional internet addicts who think someone is coming.
Nobody is fucking coming. I’ve been through this for decades. Nobody is saving us. We are not getting ideal outcomes.
Whole lot of words to excuse murdering citizens without due process.