Apparently “nationalism is bad” is an uncivil take. Unless there’s another reason someone would ban this comment… 🤔

  • boonhet@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    American nationalism is bad because it’s an empire. That take is allowed.

    Chinese nationalism, however, is good because it’s also an empire.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ah yes good ol Rule 1 “Bigotry” the classic .ml go-to

    Whenever you bring up the bans though the more prominent .ml users will proclaim that people mostly get banned for “bigotry” on .ml and there’s definitely no problem with opposing viewpoints.

    This is the “bigotry” they speak of

    Edit:

  • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
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    7 months ago

    I dated a Chinese student at university. She seemed alright until somehow the topic of Tibet came up, and then she went full tankie describing how the Tibetan people were nearly subhuman, living terrible lives with no ability to care for themselves.

    I’ve heard people say similar shit about indigenous Americans and yeah I think it’s safe to say that you cannot understate the dangers of propaganda and nationalism.

  • ilost7489@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    I got banned for saying China and the DPRK are oppressive regimes and that Ukraine has a right to exist because I violated “rule 1”. The irony lmao

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    Ahhh. The vague and often confusingly unexplainable “Rule 1” violation on .ml that all the minions residing there always seem to find a way to pretend doesn’t exist when their beloved shithole of an instance’s strapped down oppressive bias is under attack.

    • boonhet@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      I got mine yesterday too!

      I mentioned bending over for dictators and they claimed it’s implied homophobia. Before getting banned, I asked if we’re back to assuming everyone on the Internet is male and got replied “oh look, I’m not a bigot, it’s implied misogyny not implied homophobia”…

      The expression isn’t about any specific gender or sexuality, it’s about the power dynamic… It’s about the fact that people will do anything to please their masters.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The brainwashed ideologies in Chinese Students

    sigh

    During the first year of the Korean War, Edward Hunter, an American journalist who had worked in wartime intelligence, and post-war with the CIA, coined (or, more accurately, first popularised) the term brainwashing

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hunter_(journalist)#Journalism

    In March 1958, Hunter testified before the US House of Representatives’ House Committee on Un-American Activities. He described the US and NATO as losing the Cold War because of the communists’ advantage in propaganda and psychological manipulation. He felt that the West lost the Korean War for being unwilling to use its advantage in atomic weapons

    It’s a bit funny to hear people use the term without recognizing it’s tortured and sensationalist history. “We’ve been tricked into not kicking off a nuclear war” isn’t what most people think of when they hear “brainwashing”. But during the height of the Red Scare, that’s what Goldwater conservatives and John Bircher reactionaries were arguing for.

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        7 months ago

        No no, nationalism is freethinking because [checks notes] an American in the Cold War was a lunatic.

    • Glide@lemmy.caOP
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      7 months ago

      That’s very interesting, and I genuinely do appreciate the history lesson, but what exactly are you trying to communicate? That brainwashing is only possible in North America because that’s the population it was coined for? That the act only constitutes brainwashing if it’s coupled with calls for violence? That brainwashing is a strictly government term and using it colloquially has no meaning? That I should fully detail every term with a unique historical significant etymology?

      There’s a lot of weird insinuations and half takes that don’t add up to a complete idea in this post.