I’m sorry, so fucking angry. Students with sources that don’t exist. Students with sources that exist but then the quotation doesn’t exist.

I’m so fucking mad, because it’s extra work for me (that I’m sure as hell not getting compensated for), and it also entirely defeats the purpose of the fucking class (it’s writing/research, so like, engaging in a discipline and looking at what’s been written before on your topic, etc.)

Kill me please. Comrades, I’m so tired. I just want to teach writing. I want to give students a way to exercise agency in the world – to both see bad arguments and make good ones. They don’t care. I’m so tired.

BTW, I took time to look up some of these sources my student used, couldn’t find the quotes they quote, so told them the paper is an “A” if they can show me every quotation and failing otherwise. Does this seem like a fair policy (my thought is – no matter the method, fabrication of evidence is justification for failing work)?

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  • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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    8 months ago

    I mean, I could go to that, but I figure as a writer, to fabricate quotations and evidence is fundamentally failing work.

    I’m trying to give the student the chance to save themselves too. If they just cited that (for instance) the quotation about “all great historical figures appear twice” was from The German Ideology instead of 18th Brumaire that’s not a problem – the quotation exists, it’s simply the student being sloppy at documentation.

    However, to claim that someone stated something they didn’t – that’s just fundamentally failing work (it would be like going online and saying Mao said that “power grows out of the hands of the peasantry” instead of “power grows out of the barrel of a gun”).

    I should note - my class has a policy that students can use AI as long as they clear it with me. However, they’re responsible for their work, and I won’t accept work with fake quotes. That’s dogshit writing.