Given that early zionists included fascists and people zionists keep insisting count as communists when someone tells them about that first fact, seems a bit of an own goam
Zionism has never not been a fascist movement with the aims of invading a country, murdering it’s inhabitants en masse, and stealing their land for the west. Just like every other settler colonial project in history.
I mean if you wanna be totally fair early Zionists also included communists. Stalin himself was in favor of the establishment of Israel and it’s the only mistake he ever made.
A lot of socialists at the time thought the establishment of Israel would weaken the UK’s presence in the middle east, and they were world’s largest imperial power at the time. Plus since many of the early settlers were Holocaust survivors and/or involved in socialist politics, there was a fair assumption that the state of Israel would be anti-imperialist and socialist aligned.
The Oblast very much pre-dated Israel and the 1948 war. But yeah the USSR did not support Israel during the 1948 war, pre communist Czechoslovakia did send an important rifle shipment, otherwise no one got involved on Israel’s side. I think the flagrance was apparent to everyone, and if Israel had not won, no one would’ve cared much.
Given that early zionists included fascists and people zionists keep insisting count as communists when someone tells them about that first fact, seems a bit of an own goam
Especially when the current zionists support a fascist movement
Zionism IS a fascist movement.
Zionism has never not been a fascist movement with the aims of invading a country, murdering it’s inhabitants en masse, and stealing their land for the west. Just like every other settler colonial project in history.
I mean if you wanna be totally fair early Zionists also included communists. Stalin himself was in favor of the establishment of Israel and it’s the only mistake he ever made.
A lot of socialists at the time thought the establishment of Israel would weaken the UK’s presence in the middle east, and they were world’s largest imperial power at the time. Plus since many of the early settlers were Holocaust survivors and/or involved in socialist politics, there was a fair assumption that the state of Israel would be anti-imperialist and socialist aligned.
Whoops guess that didn’t quite work out
Um, excuse me‽
As far as I’m aware, Stalin actually realized his mistake about Israel and supported the Jewish Autonomous Oblast in the USSR instead.
The Oblast very much pre-dated Israel and the 1948 war. But yeah the USSR did not support Israel during the 1948 war, pre communist Czechoslovakia did send an important rifle shipment, otherwise no one got involved on Israel’s side. I think the flagrance was apparent to everyone, and if Israel had not won, no one would’ve cared much.
Yeah, it quickly became apparent (like by 1949, within a year) that the state of Israel was not going to be what a lot of people expected