• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Wrong in all points.

    No, actually, I’m not at all. In-fact, I’m totally right:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhBpI13dxkI

    Copyright originated create a monopoly to protect printers, not artists, to create a monopoly around a means of distribution.

    How many artists do you know? You must know a few. How many of them have received any income through copyright. I dare you, to in good faith, try and identify even one individual you personally know, engaged in creative work, who makes any meaningful amount of money through copyright.

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      16 hours ago

      I know several artists living off of selling their copyrighted work, and no one in the history of the Internet has ever watched a 55 minute YouTube video someone linked to support their argument.

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        8 hours ago

        Cool. What artist?

        Edit because I didn’t read the second half of your comment. If you are too up-your-own ass and anti-intellectual to educate yourself on this matter, maybe just don’t have an opinion.

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      16 hours ago

      I know quite a few people who rely on royalties for a good chunk of their income. That includes musicians, visual artists and film workers.

      Saying it doesn’t exist seems very ignorant.

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          7 hours ago

          Any experienced union film director, editor, DOP, writer, sound designer comes to mind (at least where I’m from)

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            6 hours ago

            Cool. Name one. A specific one that we can directly reference, where they themselves can make that claim. Not a secondary source, but a primary one. And specifically, not the production companies either, keeping in mind that the argument that I’m making is that copyright law, was intended to protect those who control the means of production and the production system itself. Not the artists.

            The artists I know, and I know several. They make their money the way almost all people make money, by contracting for their time and services, or through selling tickets and merchandise, and through patreon subscriptions: in other words, the way artists and creatives have always made their money. The “product” in the sense of their music or art being a product, is given away practically for free. In fact, actually for free in the case of the most successful artists I know personally. If they didn’t give this “product” of their creativity away for free, they would not be able to survive.

            There is practically 0 revenue through copyright. Production companies like Universal make money through copyright. Copyright was also built, and historically based intended for, and is currently used for, the protection of production systems: not artists.

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              5 hours ago

              I don’t know where you are, but here in Norway, people tend to get paid when their work is used for commercial or entertainment purposes.

              Of course, very few can live off of royalties alone, but a lot of artists get a considerable amount income from their previous works.

              (Edited in total, I matched the anger I felt from what I was answering to, and decided to moderate)