• daq@lemmy.sdf.org
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    10 days ago

    I couldn’t disagree more. All the hatred should be directed at individuals/companies that own a bunch of properties. They are specifically in the business of fucking people.

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      10 days ago

      As opposed to the people who merely own one family of serfs?

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          9 days ago

          Edit: messed up the formatting.

          Does it matter to a family that can only rent if they rent from a corporation vs individual?

          Spreading out renters is not a solution.

          The following math works if the all landlords own the maximum allowed.

          If the maximum rentals one could own is 1000, only 1‰ of the population can be landlords.

          If the maximum rentals one could own is 100, only 1% of the population can be landlords.

          If the maximum rentals one could own is 10, only 10% of the population can be landlords.

          If the maximum rentals one could own is 1, only 50% of the population can be landlords.

          To go back to the beginning, if there is no maximum, only 1 person (0.0001%) of the population can be a landlord and everyone else is a renter (the whole “you will own nothing and be happy” line).

          What percent of the population do you want to permit to be landlords? Mind you, not property managers, specifically landlords.

          Remember 100% of the population can be a property manager because everyone can manage their own property. But the largest percentage of the population that can be landlords is 50%.

          I see that you differentiate from people who happen to have extra space and want to rent it out, that I can understand. But also understand that someone can buy 1 home specifically to fuck over other people.

          The problem is that some people want to own other people’s homes. Some people want to own 1000 people’s homes and others just 1 is enough. In either case it is not the number that is the problem but the desire to own other people’s homes for the sole purpose of rent seeking that is the problem.

          That is what is meant by the comment about “merely own one family of serfs” is about.

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            10 days ago

            None of the shit your said counters my original point. Individual renters with a single rental property inherently care about it and it will almost never be their only income. They’re not doing it to squeeze the most money out of it. Most just need rent to cover their own expenses.

            Previous comment is still utter fucking nonsense.

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              9 days ago

              You were given a great answer but to put it even more bluntly, just because someone owns one slave it doesn’t make it any better than someone owning a whole plantation of slaves. It’s horrible either way, I don’t care if you have more time to take better care of your slave because it’s your only one; you still own a fucking slave

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                9 days ago

                It wasn’t a great answer. It was incredibly banal and doesn’t take reality into consideration. This idiotic logic can be applied to anything. It doesn’t make any more sense just because you repeat it.

                We live in a capitalist country. We’re all slaves by this primitive thinking. You can shift the blame endlessly.

                A properly maintained rental that is fairly priced is not unfair to anyone.

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                  9 days ago

                  I know what the point you’re trying to make in response, it is an understandable one but I will respond to it later. Hopefully by the weekend.

                  To make sure I get the point your trying to make is: not everyone can be a doctor, not everyone can be a teacher, not everyone can be a plumber, likewise not everyone can be a landlord. In every society only a certain percentage of people can be said thing. This is what you mean when you said “It … doesn’t take reality into consideration”.

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                    9 days ago

                    Not at all. The only point I’m trying to make is there’s a vast difference between companies that own a lot of properties for rent and individuals who own one. Like differences between banks and credit unions. One does bare minimum required to squeeze maximum amount of money from customers, another provides a fantastic service while still making a profit.

                    The reality you’re disconnected from is the fact that we live in a capitalist society and not in a non-existent utopia where all resources are shared equally. By your logic family owned stores and restaurants are also enslaving people because we all need to eat. It makes no sense.