In Falkirk today saturday aug16

  • wewbull@feddit.uk
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    18 days ago

    J6 rioters were successfully found guilty of numerous things and jailed without needing to make up new offences for them. Incitement to violence is an existing crime. They should be enforcing it.

    The fact that some twat who’s above the law came along and freed them all doesn’t play into this argument.

    I don’t want to live in a society where the freedom to protest is so eroded that it’s worthless. So I don’t want them banned from protesting because that’s legal. Nail them to the wall on anything they do that’s illegal though. I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be difficult.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      J6 rioters were successfully found guilty of numerous things and jailed

      Most of the rioters weren’t jailed. Less than one third earned prison sentences. Of the 1500 who were charged, roughly 900 were convicted with 300 ongoing, which is surprisingly low by federal prosecution standards (typically feds convict in excess of 90% of cases).

      One individual notably exempt from prosecution was, of course, Donald Trump himself.

      I don’t want to live in a society where the freedom to protest is so eroded that it’s worthless.

      Then you need to leave the US asap, because the freedom to protest went out back during the Founding Fathers Era. It has never existed in any practical sense, whether it was the Whiskey Rebellion, the Bonus March, or the Columbia anti-genocide Protests.

      I see people regularly bring up the Hundred Flowers Campaign in China, when they want to dab on “Unfree” countries and their illiberal habits. But then I see security services like Anduril and Booz Allen Hamilton vacuuming up the name of every dipshit who posted “I’m going to the No Kings Day March! Join me!” on Facebook or Twitter. And then what?