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Away from Beijing’s lofty rhetoric about defending Palestinians, Chinese firms are helping to sustain illegal settlements.
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This is why we say “critical support”. China gets a lot of things right but this definitely is not one of them and they can and certainly should do better on this.
This is probably the biggest thing most of us who support AES states criticize constantly.
Do you want China to be another USA? Because interference with the open market and manipulating other nations with tariffs and sanctions is something China promises not to do unilaterally, unless they are attacked in the same way. Thus, China cannot interfere with normal Chinese-Israeli business. Does that mean construction materials and labour will go to construct things where the Chinese government itself may not want? Sure, but it also means the Chinese will never cut you off unilaterally.
The only way to change this is to petition the UN for global sanctions. But USA will clearly block anything with help from their allies. China simply refuses to take any market distorting actions, and like it or not, construction is absolutely normal business activity.
Actually, not doing business with a country is a totally valid choice and has nothing to do with imperialism.
Actually it’s not for China. That was China’s promise to the world. No matter what happens as long as you don’t block trade from me China will trade with you. They even do this with Taiwan, and believe me, China always keeps it’s word.
There are countries accused of all sorts of things, yet China will never stop trading. Russia, Iran, North Korea, Belarus, Serbia, Egypt, I could go on. What does this say to BRICS nations if China picked a side. They’re trapped by their own promise. But it’s one that keeps them consistent regardless of how the world turns.
You’re telling me that if was Nazi Germany, China would be doing trade with it. And you call that country socialist?
You think you have a gotcha, but you’re actually about to unveil a very hard truth of why China is always neutral. Yes, China would trade with the Nazis, or more accurately did. And in return, they protected 250,000 Chinese from the Japanese.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-rabe-alexander-von-falkenhausen
One nations opponent is not another nations. It’s not for China to decide who is right or wrong. Thus as China always says, China is not a party to this conflict.
You’re literally comparing Chiang Kai-shek politics to the supposed anti-imperialist character of the actual - supposed heir of the men and women who fought Chiang Kai-shek - chinese diplomacy, by doing business with the nazis of today, without it being to save a single chinese, btw. But you’re right in something, is not for China or other country to decide who is right or wrong, is for the people of the world. And the blood of any human should boil by knowing what “israel” is and what it’s doing to the Palestinian People for over 70 years. You are basically saying that Marx was wrong when he condemned English colonialism in Ireland, or when he was outraged by the murder of Abraham Lincoln. By your metrics, the founding of the Comintern by the Soviets was an imperialist act. You should read some fucking Lenin or stfu about imperialism.
Okay but it still sucks no matter how you spin it.
Do you want China to be another USA?
obviously fucking not lmao
Of course it sucks. As long as the US and it’s allies will continue to block any global action, China cannot make a move or risk reprisal from those nations as well as lose the trust it’s been building up with the global south. It’s nice to imagine China as an all powerful big dog, but in reality China has a lot of weaknesses it has to play around. And on top of that, it’s promise to BRICS and the global south is that China will never play favorites means it can’t act or lose trust. The trust which is tenuously built since China refuses allies.
The real question you should ask yourself is whether or not China is right and we must move to a multipolar world. If you agree with it and that we should not have a super power hegemon, then sadly blood must be spilled to usher in a new world. And China promises to help construct it no matter who is in charge.
Now, that all said. My personal opinion is I partly disagree. I don’t think the bloodshed is worth it. I also don’t see another path. It’s clear China had chosen to do this regardless. But that means a lot of wars as the world police goes to sleep. Which sadly means we are going to see a lot more genocides.
I am not here to say I know better than the CPC leadership, rather that it looks pretty bad to some of those same nations you claim they are trying not to alienate. They simply have no choice but to choose the lesser evil in this case. (not calling the CPC actually evil just a turn of phrase).
Well, neutral means neutral. Sadly, we seem to have lost an understanding of the word in this devisive world. Let me try to use two different conflicts to explain what I mean. Hopefully one of them you’ll be less emotional about one or the other to let you see the neutrality.
The first one is obviously the Russian Ukraine war. China will not sell to Russia anything it wouldn’t be willing to sell to Ukraine. Regardless of the friendship talks with Russia, China maintains it’s neutrality and continues to supply Ukraine with drones and guidance systems. They even prefer them to US switchblades.
People argue that Myanmar is a Chinese puppet. However, China has been supplying the revolutionaries with weapons as much as the Myanmar regime. It’s not China’s place to decide which government the people of Myanmar choose. So regardless of the global backlash China gets for not stepping in, China’s response has always been step in for whom? China is no one’s opponent.
China has been working towards a completely neutral world. They can’t just abandon it because some feel the Gaza conflict is a more worthy cause than all the other ones. Neutral is neutral, good or bad.
They aren’t neutral, they send 6000 workers. Did they send the same to the Palestinians? Oh right, they couldn’t afford it.
I know the meaning of neutral quite well. Neutral means “I work for the one with the most money”. Neutral means complicit. The examples you give are damming in their own right. Reads like a list of war profitieering. I defend China all the time and I’m all for critical support, but seriously, read back to yourself what you just wrote and pretend it’s Switzerland in the second world war selling weapons to the Nazis and the allies, because they care so much about being “neutral”. They aren’t neutral about their bank accounts.
China has been working towards a completely neutral world. They can’t just abandon it because some feel the Gaza conflict is a more worthy cause than all the other ones. Neutral is neutral, good or bad.
Read Lenin. Capitalist countries aren’t “neutral” they work together to crush us. We have to work together too. International solidarity is at the heart of Marxist-Leninism. Your ideology is counter-revolutionary. I’m not arguing, I’m teaching. Please self crit.
There is a case of wipe your own ass first, western nations are infinitely more complicit in this shit than China is. At the end of the day removed about China generates consent internally in the imperial core to never normalise relationships and to keep pressing toward cold war shit.
