what I find disgusting about this is her repeated attempts to get the dogs to attack…very disgusting and she deserves jail time, AND that nobody seems to give a crap about cats until they are dead. if people actually leashed their cats AND monitored them, this entire incident wouldn’t have happened.
every damn time, the logic just stops when a free roaming cat enters the picture. I’m sorry but if I’m on my property, and your free roaming cat enters my property where my dog lives. don’t expect to have a cat. I would never do what the lady in the article did, that’s sick and disturbing. but you cannot hold me responsible, for your unsupervised animal that tresspassed into my property and not expect to have consequences.
we don’t know the full story, but you can’t remove blame from the cat owner who WILLINGLY lets they cat roam without supervising it.
do that with a 2 year old and see what happens. why is it ok with a cat.
the cat owner SHARES blame yes, that dog owner is still a piece of shit. you seem to not realize that multiple people can be blamed for crap like this.
Cats are some of the few pets that often demand to go outside and roam about on their own. Most don’t like leashes, it’s often overstimulating to them. And for the vast, vast majority of cats this isn’t a problem: they roam around the neighbourhood for a bit, maybe meet another cat or two, sleep somewhere and head back home for dinner. This shouldn’t be a problem, and isn’t one in the vast majority of the world.
If you think being outside of the home is so excessively dangerous by default, you need a reality check. Even the dogs in this story didn’t want to attack the cat, they had to be told to.
still could have been avoided by a responsible human being there …or by raising the cat to be on a leash. I’ve never owned a cat, that didn’t accept a harness and a leash.
y’all should stop defending bad pet ownership regardless of the pet
After Gregson was jailed, Judge Sara Dodd said: "It is perhaps hard to put into words how sadistic and persistent that episode was.
"Your dogs took a significant amount of encouragement before they began, let alone continued their attack on Poppy.
“They had absolutely no interest in that cat before you goaded them into attacking her.”
Sounds like she would have sicc’d her dogs on Poppy even if he was on a leash. Also do you seriously think the problem is the dead cat and not the FUCKING PSCYOPATH filming her dogs kill someone’s pet?
do that with a 2 year old and see what happens. why is it ok with a cat.
2 year old are allowed to be outside in their yard without a leash? Plenty of videos online showing that pitbulls will attack supervised children.
if it took a SIGNIFICANT amount of effort to get the dogs to attack, you as the pet own could have picked up the cat and removed yourselves…or even avoided the scenario entirely.
still shit what that woman forced her dogs to do, she should be jailed and banned from pet ownership. I am not denying that, y’all are arguing with me like I am.
the fact that you can’t think about two issues from the same scenario shows me you’re incapable of logical thought processes.
I own 2 animals, and have owned 3 cats in my life. all passed from old age, always leashed when outside and I watched them…the entire time they were outside. why? because I cared for them. are you saying I should have just thrown them to whatever for hours? increases their chances of dying prematurely? seriously? you’re sadistic. why wouldn’t I watch my animals. YOU shouldn’t own animals if you think that way… disgusting…
Like how you turned it around and blamed the cat owner somehow. If those dogs were under control and not told to sic an animal, something they have been bred and programmed to do by us, that did not need or deserve to be sicced everyone would have gone home just fine. Many people care a lot about cats, but understand they don’t need to be coddled nor locked inside 4 walls. Cats see to themselves, or don’t…
Ok, and do you also think that the cat owner deserves jail time? No you don’t, because both actions are not close to being equivalent and both sides are not equally to blame.
I never said they did, not did I same they are equivalent. you’re assuming that. both can still be shit pet owners with one being worse then the other.
Fukckcat owners they are not supposed to be wondering free. If a cat gets into my yard and my dog kills it yes it is the cat owners fault. I don’t know how many missing car posters I see plastered up keep track of your pets.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted but I agree that cats being outdoors is a problem. Not only do they kill birds constantly, fucking up the ecosystem, they shit places and it smells awful, plus clearly many of them breed and that contributes to terrible suffering. Then things like this can happen. Cats can mostly take care of themselves but that’s no excuse.
Yesterday I was walking my dog who was doing nothing but sniffing and peeing like a dog would, when a cat jumps out of the bushes, scratching him, hissing, and growling evilly. My dog did not react aggressively. He’s 20% pit bull genetically so I’m sure this community would side against him automatically but he literally just kinda freaked out and jumped to his left to escape the attack. I tried scaring the cat off just to communicate that wasn’t okay but the damn thing hissed instead of backing off an inch. Then it proceeded to follow us in a stalking manner. The only thing stopping the cat from killing my dog appeared to be ability.
Tldr; you’re right, two things can be true at once.
what I find disgusting about this is her repeated attempts to get the dogs to attack…very disgusting and she deserves jail time, AND that nobody seems to give a crap about cats until they are dead. if people actually leashed their cats AND monitored them, this entire incident wouldn’t have happened.
if people actually leashed their cats AND monitored them ? What the fuck dude… Yeah clearly the cat owner is to blame here… wow
every damn time, the logic just stops when a free roaming cat enters the picture. I’m sorry but if I’m on my property, and your free roaming cat enters my property where my dog lives. don’t expect to have a cat. I would never do what the lady in the article did, that’s sick and disturbing. but you cannot hold me responsible, for your unsupervised animal that tresspassed into my property and not expect to have consequences.
we don’t know the full story, but you can’t remove blame from the cat owner who WILLINGLY lets they cat roam without supervising it.
do that with a 2 year old and see what happens. why is it ok with a cat.
the cat owner SHARES blame yes, that dog owner is still a piece of shit. you seem to not realize that multiple people can be blamed for crap like this.
If your animal is so poorly trained it attacks a random cat wandering around, you’re a shit owner and should be banned from keeping animals.
End of story.
yeah…not denying that at all. I totally agree.
if you can’t see your pet to make sure its ok while it’s outside for hours on end…you’re also a shit owner and should be banned from keeping animals…
both behaviours are shitty, and neglectful to the animal.
Cats are some of the few pets that often demand to go outside and roam about on their own. Most don’t like leashes, it’s often overstimulating to them. And for the vast, vast majority of cats this isn’t a problem: they roam around the neighbourhood for a bit, maybe meet another cat or two, sleep somewhere and head back home for dinner. This shouldn’t be a problem, and isn’t one in the vast majority of the world.
If you think being outside of the home is so excessively dangerous by default, you need a reality check. Even the dogs in this story didn’t want to attack the cat, they had to be told to.
still could have been avoided by a responsible human being there …or by raising the cat to be on a leash. I’ve never owned a cat, that didn’t accept a harness and a leash.
y’all should stop defending bad pet ownership regardless of the pet
Sounds like she would have sicc’d her dogs on Poppy even if he was on a leash. Also do you seriously think the problem is the dead cat and not the FUCKING PSCYOPATH filming her dogs kill someone’s pet?
2 year old are allowed to be outside in their yard without a leash? Plenty of videos online showing that pitbulls will attack supervised children.
What stray cat hurt you?
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Dude there is a world of difference between being an irresponsible pet owner and filming yourself committing acts of animal cruelty.
The fact that you consider what you said a valid argument is deeply disturbing.
Please never own an animal or be responsible for children.
if it took a SIGNIFICANT amount of effort to get the dogs to attack, you as the pet own could have picked up the cat and removed yourselves…or even avoided the scenario entirely.
still shit what that woman forced her dogs to do, she should be jailed and banned from pet ownership. I am not denying that, y’all are arguing with me like I am.
the fact that you can’t think about two issues from the same scenario shows me you’re incapable of logical thought processes.
I own 2 animals, and have owned 3 cats in my life. all passed from old age, always leashed when outside and I watched them…the entire time they were outside. why? because I cared for them. are you saying I should have just thrown them to whatever for hours? increases their chances of dying prematurely? seriously? you’re sadistic. why wouldn’t I watch my animals. YOU shouldn’t own animals if you think that way… disgusting…
Like how you turned it around and blamed the cat owner somehow. If those dogs were under control and not told to sic an animal, something they have been bred and programmed to do by us, that did not need or deserve to be sicced everyone would have gone home just fine. Many people care a lot about cats, but understand they don’t need to be coddled nor locked inside 4 walls. Cats see to themselves, or don’t…
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You’re equating psychopathic serial killer behaviour with pet irresponsibility.
Are you just a pitbull lover making excuses? Cuz honestly that’s the mentality you’re displaying here.
totally not, she deserves jail time and to be banned from pet ownership.
are you denying that it’s neglect to have a cat roam unsupervised… yoi really think that’s responsible behavior?
stop cherry picking what I said. both parties are shit, just one more the. the other (dog owner obviously)
Ok, and do you also think that the cat owner deserves jail time? No you don’t, because both actions are not close to being equivalent and both sides are not equally to blame.
I never said they did, not did I same they are equivalent. you’re assuming that. both can still be shit pet owners with one being worse then the other.
why is this so hard to understand…
Buddy serial killers murder animals. wtf kind of ludicrous false equivalence are you trying to pitch here?
I never said they were equal things. is it so hard to comprehend 2 issues from the same topic and be able to not dismiss one as just invalid.
just leash your cats and watch them. two topics…holy crap…
Fukckcat owners they are not supposed to be wondering free. If a cat gets into my yard and my dog kills it yes it is the cat owners fault. I don’t know how many missing car posters I see plastered up keep track of your pets.
Lady sicc’d her dogs on someone elses pet and filmed it while laughing.
Right?! Cat haters just gonna hate though.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted but I agree that cats being outdoors is a problem. Not only do they kill birds constantly, fucking up the ecosystem, they shit places and it smells awful, plus clearly many of them breed and that contributes to terrible suffering. Then things like this can happen. Cats can mostly take care of themselves but that’s no excuse.
Yesterday I was walking my dog who was doing nothing but sniffing and peeing like a dog would, when a cat jumps out of the bushes, scratching him, hissing, and growling evilly. My dog did not react aggressively. He’s 20% pit bull genetically so I’m sure this community would side against him automatically but he literally just kinda freaked out and jumped to his left to escape the attack. I tried scaring the cat off just to communicate that wasn’t okay but the damn thing hissed instead of backing off an inch. Then it proceeded to follow us in a stalking manner. The only thing stopping the cat from killing my dog appeared to be ability.
Tldr; you’re right, two things can be true at once.
3 things can be true as well.
Outdoor cats can be a bad things
Siccing your dog on an outdoor cat is animal cruelty
Blaming the outdoor cat when there is clear evidence of malice is sociopathic behaviour on par with people who say “All Lives Matter.”
#3 was not directed at you. It was directed at the person you were agreeing with. They most certainly did that.
I did not get that from their comments.
If you leave your cat outdoors it should be taken away
Sure. And dog owners should be fined more for leaving dog poop.
But why are you advocating animal cruelty? That’s pretty fucked up dude.
Lady sicc’d dogs on someone elses pet and filmed it laughing. Why are you okay with that?