Commented on a post with the most recent (non-Breitbart) headline and updates. Added this with 3 independent sources:
FYI, Breitbart is a far-right, low-quality source.
Mod apparently didn’t like a more reputable source being added to their post because it was removed in minutes lol.
reason: Rule 6 Violation
Rule 6: Using the Poisoning The Well fallacy to attack sources shared in a post is presently not allowed (this rule may change in the future, and isolated instances will not subject you to a permanent ban)
Just admit you want an echo chamber to spread disinformation and promote biased articles! Using this rule to police sources is very thinly-veiled censorship…
PTB. Any community that allows Breitbart and its ilk should be avoided and removed. Absolutely nothing they publish is in good faith, factual, or otherwise. It’s right-wing rage porn, nothing more, nothing less.
Edited to remain on-topic.
These are the people that got banned justly on reddit for posting such nonsense trash.
PTB.
They popped up in a governance thread on the instance I’m part of, so I did a deep dive on their comments (as others had done on their posts and I thought I could get a better look at their POV if I went for comments) and they, at one point in the past, stated they worded their rules carefully. I believe this sort of thing is intentional, and bad faith.
But as they themselves said several times, they’re right-wing, and a person can’t help their biases! So the fact that they’re intelligent and have no qualms with their biases, just means they’re going to hard code their biases into any spaces they litigate. It’s to be expected.
I can’t even make sense of this.
Are you mad because you want the Breitbart source to stay? Or because you want it to go away?
mods: realcaseyrollins
Oh… oh. That community is the number one community on their instance.
- Right Wing Videos
- Censorship News
Jesus, man. Just stay away.
Sorry if I was unclear! I quoted a bit, so tell me if I should edit something to make it less confusing (already clarified slightly). I am venting because I don’t think I broke a rule, but my comment with a reputable news source and several independent sources calling attention to the problems Breitbart has was removed.
And yes, I avoided pointing out exactly who it was, but it’s pretty obvious who, when the instance has a single moderator… who’s also the OP. Their own community has the post downvoted 9 points vs a single upvote! 🤣
I would just make it a little more clear which side you’re on. People sometimes come to YPTB because they are being unreasonable. Something like:
- Some idiot posts Breitbart
- I point out that it’s clear propaganda with several sources
- My comment gets deleted, Breitbart stays
Then the sources to prove it, but have the simple explanation first. Sometimes if you indicate the primary sources first without the explanation it takes a little triangulation for someone to figure out what’s actually going on.
And yeah, I don’t even know if this counts as PTB just because of the superseding issue that realcaseyrollins is just here to spew and nothing good can come of interacting with them, mod or not. Like you can’t go in the monkey cage and then be surprised when some poop comes flying at you. I’m actually a little surprised that thelemmy.club is not defederated from more places given the apparent waste-of-time state of the place.
thelemmy.club admin here
Their communities are small and generally most conservative posts get clowned on if they get any attention at all. And it’s mostly self-contained. Any instance admin could just ban those few communities or that user there’s really no reason to defederate the entire instance.
I’m not at all a fan of their content but I also don’t want to ban people or comms that I personally disagree with (to a limit, of course) who don’t otherwise break rules.
But I definitely don’t want to run a right wing site. I’ve only left it alone this long because it seems like they’ve mostly failed at creating any kind of community. I may have to do something, I dunno. It’s hard to get a read on them, if you look they also post bbc, msnbc, etc articles. They post articles about Trump and Musks failures too. It’s kinda all over the place. To do it would force me to foray into a more active, ideological based moderation which I’d really like to avoid. Right now I’m at “if instances don’t like that user, they can ban them”.
Until you posted this I thought all of thelemmyclub was a right wing disinformation platform and have heard similar from others. It is the only content and users I have seen from the instance.
FYI, we are having a thelemmy.club instance defederation vote in our governance community here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40329206, so maybe consider rethinking your position. We also banned Xitter links a while back for similar reasons. Any instance that caters to the alt-right is gonna find itself defederated sooner or later.
It’s hard to get a read on them, if you look they also post bbc, msnbc, etc articles. They post articles about Trump and Musks failures too. It’s kinda all over the place.
It’s actually a common right wing tactic to sprinkle some ordinary looking posts in between the problematic ones, for plausible deniability. But don’t be fooled, they know what they are doing. I’ll be happy to withdraw my governance defederation proposal if you are willing to take some meaningful action against right wing content on your instance.
