Charlie Kirk has never received a warm welcome in the pages of this magazine. It doesn’t matter now. The assassination of Kirk is a tragedy. Morally, it is unjustifiable. Politically, it is cause for serious alarm. A larger spiral into political violence would be a catastrophe for the Left.

In the short time since Kirk was slain, most on the Left have rightly condemned his murder. A not insignificant number, however, have reacted with an almost competitive lack of empathy. Not only is their anti-moral posturing likely to turn off ordinary Americans, who abhor political violence, but it is also politically misguided and strategically naive. There is nothing to celebrate here. Indeed, there is much to fear.

sit back and observe time

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If history is any guide, the Left faces serious dangers from this development. The theory that acts of individual political violence will somehow spark mass movements for justice (what used to be called “propaganda of the deed”) has been tested, in a variety of circumstances around the world, for centuries. It’s very consistently been a disaster, almost always leading to enhanced repression of the Left and attacks on democracy writ large. The aftermath of Kirk’s murder could easily follow this familiar, grim pattern. Whether or not the shooter even turns out to be left-wing, there are good reasons to worry that the assassination could be used as a pretext for new crackdowns against dissenting speech from an administration that’s already shown itself willing to engage in a degree of authoritarianism we haven’t seen in recent American history.

Kirk himself played a leading role in pushing Gen Z toward the Right, especially young men. If the killer hoped to snuff out his influence, their actions will almost certainly have the opposite effect. Kirk’s murder at age thirty-one will no doubt convince many of his millions of viewers and listeners to dedicate themselves to his cause, thus hastening the coherence of a militant right-wing political bloc that will be an obstacle to our own project for decades to come.

does jacobin have short guide for spain as related to political violence from anarchists?

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    I am glad Charlie Kirk is dead because I hated him. I’m not more holy than he was or a better person than he was or his followers are. I’m not above celebrating the end of my enemies. He would be glad to know people like me suffer and die. He would have let us all die. If all you have for me is “yeah but now the people who don’t care if we die don’t care if we die” then you need the horse bit slapped out of your mouth.

    But neither am I so low that I have no respect for my enemies. Kirk’s execution is a tough blow for the other side. Say whatever you want about how there will always be another reactionary but its just a tired cliche. Kirk was effective in his evil and we are all spared by his murder. Charlie meant something and it is good that that meaning has been frustrated, by whatever degree, with is death.

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        It’s a cosmic accident that Charlie and I are on opposite poles. Yes he was evil but that will never make any of us good. It’s nothing to take pride in. We don’t need to be good anyway. We just need to be us. We become ourselves by facing our enemies if you believe Fanon. But there is no guarantee this makes us good. I’m afraid we would need to know about our relationships to more than just Charlie to know something like that.

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      You are a better person simply through your intent. If every action you took was the same but your true, honest, personal intent was more moral and just, you are better

      And now realize that every action you take is not the same

      You aren’t even comparable. I’d say there are greater differences between you and him than you and completely different species

      A just society must be intolerant towards those who are without any motivation but their own greed

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        I don’t put stock in intent any more than I put stock in mere knowledge making someone good. Charlie’s intentions were just as good as anyone else’s and its not clear how greedy he was. Maybe he was greedy for his bosses?

        If every action you took was the same but your true, honest, personal intent was more moral and just, you are better

        If I actively did what Charlie was doing, but intended to not be evil… I would actually be good? This is why I don’t bother believing I’m better than my enemies.

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          No. You are better. Doesn’t make you good, just makes you relatively better. If you were a delusional Charlie Kirk with legitimately good intentions, you’d still be a shitty fucking person, but you would be better than him, you’d just also be delusional.

          But that also doesn’t happen. There are exceptions to everything in life; our general rhetoric and understanding of life shouldn’t have to account for those otherwise we’d be here all day. I don’t think it’s possible to have a Charlie Kirk I described, as I don’t think thoughts the opposite of your actions to that extent could be reconciled, but my comment included theoretical measurements