Is there any doubt that the vast majority of Israeli Zionists deserve to spend the rest of their lives in prison?
“In Gaza, there is a shortage of nearly all medical supplies. That’s why doctors bring basic items with them. But often, everything is taken away — even baby formula. It has happened on multiple missions, …”
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@palestine
Let’s stop the genocide, then we can hold Nuremberg trials 2.0 and figure out exactly who deserves to spend the rest of their lives in prison. It’s easy to say they all deserve life in prison, and it’s very possible that they do, but giving a fair trial is part of what’s necessary to be maintained in order to prevent our own descent into acts of atrocity.
@Signtist
No we can’t. Because allowing suh tribunal means almost all top leaders of the west are going to be charged with complicity and direct involvement in the ongoing genocide.
No way the “free world” will allow that to happen.
@DropBear
There’s no way the “free world” will allow the genocide to be stopped anyway. If we’re talking about throwing Zionists in jail at all, we’re talking about overthrowing multiple major world powers, which is exactly what we need to do.
@Signtist
very true
But again, if we do the work to overthrow the major world powers in order to build a new society, but fail to hold fair trials for the tyrants we stopped and their followers, we’re making a very bad first step toward creating a better society than we replaced.
@Signtist
I am not sure if I believe in it, but once I read that in order to overtrough a government, you need an active support of 35% of the population.
Now way in hell we can engage 35% of the population of western world to make such dramatic change.
Who will pay their mortgage, who will take care of their retirement, who will make sure they can go on vacation and how can they live without sport and reality TV?
The nice thing is that when you’re mad enough, you worry less about the repercussions of your outrage. I doubt that most of the people fighting in the American Revolution were overly worried about their vacations as they fought for their freedom. Things likely got worse for them at first, but the drive to rebuild the country in the right way probably let them work toward that goal without lamenting too much about their lost security from England’s established institutions.
People are indeed more reliant on their bread and circuses now than they were then, and there’s also the bigger issue of how we’ve been pacified by decades of rhetoric stating “violence is always bad,” so it will take some work to galvanize people. I do think that anger is continuing to rise, though, and there’s no sign of the source of that anger slowing down anytime soon, so I think it will get to a boiling point eventually. My goal is just to encourage the revolution to start sooner rather than later so that the world doesn’t fall apart even more before we start fighting to repair it.
Just saying, how come hamas terrorists never get fair trials? IDF kills not just them but everyone around them. And people don’t question, even if they are terrorists, they deserved fair trials.
You’re right, they did. It’s part of why what’s going on is considered a genocide, and part of why we need to be better. This is all discussing what should happen after the genocide is stopped, though. It’s likely that battles will need to be fought to end this, and trials can’t be held for those who die in war.
@Signtist
The value of trials will be less in the punishments meted out than in the lessons we learn. It’s part of the healing.
For all the pain and evil, humanity CAN come out of this better than it was.
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