Time for me to say this again:
THE WEIGHT LIMIT ON LUGGAGE IS TO PROTECT BAGGAGE HANDLERS FROM INJURY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TAKE OFF OR LANDING WEIGHT.
Then why does a first class ticket come with a higher weight limit?
Because they wanna fleece you for every penny you have, but the point still stands that for the most part it’s to protect baggage handlers. If you wanna take a dead body on board you have to take that up with the airline.
They carry literal caskets with dead parts on commercial flights… that’s definitely heavier
Right, so everyone should be allowed to bring on a coffin size suitcase with at least 100kg with of weight now? They plan that out in advance so unless you are going to inform the airline well in advance that you’re bringing a corpse’s weight of luggage on board, my point still stands.
“They bring bodies on board so I can bring a 100kg suicase” is a level of logic only seen when a Karen screams at some poor customer service person because her plane was cancelled due to a hurricane as if there’s a secret network of hurricane proof planes that are only unlocked if you act like a bitch.
I appreciate that you’re clarifying with facts, in the social mediaverse that revolves around stubborn preconceptions.
If that’s all it is, then just slap a bright red tag on the over weight bags to warn the handlers. Right?
So there’s a weight limit on how far handers throw the luggage around?
If you are there handling heavy items all day, you’re gonna get injured. That doesn’t just fuck up the workers (meaning they can’t go to work) but it costs the company money too (because they need to replace those handlers).
Think of it like this, you know how the X-Ray tech has to go into a little shielded room while you are getting X-Rayed, but you are still exposed to the full force of the X-Ray? That’s not because they care about their safety more than yours, it’s because one x-ray is fine (what your getting), but the x-ray tech does tens, maybe hundreds a day, and that builds up to radiation poisoning.
Now replace “X-Ray Radiation” with Repetitive Strain and back injuries" and “X-Ray” with the Suitcase full of Drugs your smuggling into the Netherlands, and you get the idea.
I had no idea, thank you
Because it is rubbish. Airlines allow heavier suitcases with “heavy” sticker on it. It is pure money grab.
Then why can i book heavyweight with some airlines?
Because they can mark the luggage has heavyweight so the handlers can use equipment to load the items.
I don’t know why this keeps getting posted everywhere. Workers have a lift limit the extra cost is for the extra person to handle the bag.
I’d also suspect humans on a plane will follow a normal distribution in terms of weight. The aircraft weight/loading is done on an average sized person (which used to be 75kg if I remember correctly). Conversely every motherfucker will load their luggage with as much shit as possible if it’s not limited.
If I pay an extra €50 to go from 19kg to 23kg, does the worker get paid more?
Thought not.
No they pay 2 workers
So all suitcases between 19 and 23kg are loaded by 2 people at a time?
Bullshit. It’s a fake cost and everyone knows it.
It’s always just one guy yeeting the bags even when there’s 2 of them they never share a bag lol. The extra money pays for the pink heavy tag they put on there that no one listens to.
Exactly. I can understand a maximum upper limit, but the cost bands below that are there only to maximise profits.
You should report them. That’s a reportable incident.
Ok, I didn’t realize I was talking to an operations manager for an airline. I was just clarifying the point made above.
No problem. I think you’ve illustrated perfectly how easy it is for airlines to dupe their customers with additional fake charges.
No, I demonstrated reading other comments and synthesizing their text into an easier form for those without reading skills. I am not arguing remotely the same point as you are.
The result of your summary was the erroneous conclusion that the extra cost was for more manpower, demonstrating why the airlines are able to get away with making spurious extra costs.
Ah! I didn’t think about that.
Cabin bags have a weight limit too
Cabin bags have a size limit, but I’ve never seen one weighed.
I always assumed they were weighed going through the scanner.
In all airports that I’ve been through (all in Europe), the scanners for people + their carry-on luggage are from the customs agency, so from the government. They won’t check or enforce any airline weight limits there. The airline may still ask to check the weight of carry-on luggage at the gate, but I’ve never seen it as an automated process, only as spot checks.
Hmm, perhaps. Good point, but I’ve flown enough that I should have seen someone flagged for overweight bags.
So how about allowing 2 bags instead?
That’s still double the work.
Who gets the money for that extra work?
If baggage handlers were paid the extra bag fee people would be queuing round the airport to work there…
If the airport needs more baggage handlers on staff because there’s heavy 2 person luggage or just more luggage, they indirectly do get the money, because that’s how wages work.
Although I’m sure that the airline will pocket some of the fee, which is obviously not cool, but that’s capitalism for you.
How is that logical that the man should pay extra cause he’s bigger/taller but small people should get extra luggage bonus?
Not even taking into account that this very short lady will be far more comfortable during the flight than the gentleman.
Its not logical - Weight limits aren’t there for the flight, they’re there so the luggage handlers don’t injure themselves
Weight limits are critical for the flight. An overweight plane can fail to take off. The more weight in passengers a plane carries, the more weight in fuel they need to add. This extra fuel weight also requires more fuel to carry it. And so on and so on.
There’s a tipping point with weight of passengers and cargo combined with flight duration where the plane becomes uneconomical to fly. Planes have crashed on takeoff because they were overweight but the weight was miscalculated. Temperature and weather also play a role.
Of course… What airline companies are most concerned about is the well being of their luggage handlers.
Even if they claim that this is one of the reasons, it’s a by product of cost management.
It’s because of safety standards. 50 pounds isn’t a set limit, but you can see how any decent lawyer can take that NIOSH model used and get a crapton of money from a company if an employee does get hurt lifting more, so conservative companies that don’t want to have to pay out will set that limit themselves.
I’ve always assumed you pay extra because multiple people have to carry the bag around after you check it, and that’s harder/more dangerous at higher weights.
In warehouses, you gotta go get your lift belt and often a partner if something is over a certain weight, and you aren’t covered by workman’s comp if you just try to do it quickly without those, so it’s a serious hassle.
Tell ya what. Make it as easy for me to pop off a pound as it is for someone else to take a hair dryer out of their luggage and I will happily pay for all the extra boobs I bring on board after I remove the weight everywhere else.
OSHA.
The throwers have a union to stop them from killing themselves, which means we don’t give them 40kg things to break their backs regularly and anything over 22kgs they buddy lift or get a hoist or something.
Thought it was just airlines being airlines too, but this makes complete sense, don’t be dicks about other people’s health.
i was in favor of total weight based pricing, but this changed my mind.
may the backs of the people kicking around my luggage be in perfect health
Same, went from ‘you greedy mother-fuckers’ to ‘I am right with you fam’.
Amazed they don’t explain it more, it makes them actually seem human for once.
“Any time you think it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.”
Mahatma GandhiNo, it’s about baggage handlers not wanting to have to load your heavy ass luggage when they have a whole planes worth to get to.
They’ll gladly take your overweight bag if you give them extra…money. The airlines don’t care about baggage handlers.
Well, no employee is going to be expected to physically lift me and every other passenger at any point, but they will have to lift all of our checked baggage, so it feels like my weight matters less than my luggage’s weight.
But the human is self loading cargo. The bag is not.
Airlines should charge a passenger based on weight. More weight means more fuel and more wear and tear, meaning higher costs.
They would make more money in America and the UK, how they don’t capitalize on those untapped profits makes no sense.
I think the negative publicity would kill them.
No it wouldn’t, if the industry as a whole started pricing based on weight, travellers aren’t going to start taking trains and ships.
If a minority of airlines didn’t switch, they would get more passengers that would save money by going with them and would ultimately fail in the market.
If a minority of airlines switched, they would decrease costs and very few people would decide against saving money on airfair on principle.
The big airlines switching would have a new means to increase profits and decrease costs, which they love.
Yes, the media will drag them through the mud and social media would have a tantrum, but the airlines would profit because nobody is going to decide 3 days on a train is better than 6 hours on a plane.
Any airline that tried this would immediately get sued in just about every country that has any sort of discrimination laws, and the airline would lose ten times out of ten.
Being overweight is not a protected class in the US, EU, or England. Some states and cities have laws that do prohibit weight based discrimination.
There is no discrimination going on anyways when charging based on weight. You are contributing 300lbs of cargo and that cargo cost more than 200lbs of cargo to transport.
Being overweight isn’t the only source of weight variation. If a 6’4" man weighs the same as a healthy 5’0" woman, he’s probably dying.
You can legally discriminate against size though.
If you’re in the top 1 percentile of sizes, any and all clothes will be much more expensive than if you were in the median.
That is true, but if her plus her luggage weights the same as him and his luggage, they should pay the same. If they don’t, their ticket price should reflect that.
You don’t fly much, do you? Getting through check in is a pain in the ass enough as it is, and now you want to add a weigh in and price adjustment step for every person onto that?
Yeah even Ryan Air tried proposing this and got roundly shunned.
Mostly because they’d lose their core customer base of Gammon export to Majorca.
And on behalf of the rest of the UK, my sincerest apologies to Spain. Please feel free to dispose of those cunts, nobody will miss them and you’d be doing us both a favour.
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There’s a simple solution to this, did you figure it out?
Steal the plane for yourself, that way you get there faster and with no annoying people and babies.
GTA has taught me well.
Mix everyone up in a big cauldron then shoot the mixture via cannon. Did I get it?
Can I get the exact same picture but with an obese fat woman and a sexy male athlete, please? Or would that be inappropriate?
This is a dumb meme, for a few reasons.
What are these reasons?
Energy scarcity and our atmosphere could be helped by charging by the kilo gram. There are people who take it as an incentive to get as close as possible to the limit, increasing the weight of the loaded aircraft!
Energy scarcity and our atmosphere could be helped by charging by the kilo gram
*USians going into meltdown
It isn’t about the weight of the aircraft but the person loading the luggage in the belly of the aircraft.
Y’all, the overhead bins and the seats have different weight ratings. If has nothing to do with the overall weight of the plane, they just don’t want the bins to come crashing down on your head mid-flight.
Checked bags don’t go in the overhead bin.
My carry-ons have always gotten weighed, as well as my checked bags. I’ve not flown in about 15 years, so maybe that’s not as common now?
If was about overhead bins collapsing, they would reject the carry on bag and not just charge extra.
The sign says “max”, so I figured this is referring to weight capacity and not cost.
Max before they charge extra.
The checked bag weight limit is to protect the worker who has to lift 100s of bags per day.
Which is why they are charging more instead of rejecting the bags?
AIUI the bags marked heavy get handled differently like being carried by multiple people.
Of course they are 🙄
