I don’t see any rules on satire so I hope this post is ok. if not please remove, thanks!
Over the past few elections, it’s been a tradition for the Conservative party leader to get kicked to the curb after failing to unseat the Liberals. I don’t see why PP should be any different.
Didn’t the other leaders at least win a seat.
If they replaced him as leader they would have sailed to a win. He attached himself to Trump style politics and it finished him off.
It’s a bit alarming to see more Canadian Cons didn’t reject him however, but after 3 liberal terms it gets harder and harder.
It’s a bit alarming to see more Canadian Cons didn’t reject him however,
Beyond just a little alarming. Over 40% of the population basically said “We don’t want Canada to survive the next four years” with their vote.
Everyone was in disbelief when people voted for Trump the first time. Then the second time. And look at what’s happened there. A total collapse of their country.
Ironically, PP is the man of “no confidence” when it came to Trudeau. Yet, PP lost a 30%+ lead. Talk about no confidence! They should be kicking him out.
but after 3 liberal terms it gets harder and harder.
This is frustrating to hear, because I know this type of thinking can affect voting.
The reality is, if anyone is suffering during their day-to-day life, they need to squarely blame their Provincial and Municipal governments.
We keep voting for conservatives who impact our daily lives, but blame the federal government. Education is key to inform future voters of how each level of government affects them.
Education to inform voters? I wonder which party routinely tries to reduce education funding…
It’s pretty bad. I was talking to someone who voted Cons yesterday and he was saying how Trump was actually doing the US economy a ton of good and that all the numbers from the stock markets to the bonds, trade numbers and all else were either temporary bumps or unimportant.
While it’s true that stock numbers don’t reflect the actual markets, they do reflect market confidence and has a high tendency to match what the market actually ends up being several months down the line.
I’ve come to realize that Cons rely on the fact that their supporters simply listen to their messages without paying any attention to other signs of what’s going on, which is why they can flatly lie about whatever they want and people actually believe them. Because they don’t want to internalize anything that suggests that they are wrong.
As someone who voted Liberals this time, I do strongly believe Carney is wrong and misguided on many points, but voted for him anyways. Because someone who is wrong a part of the time is far better than someone who is wrong most of the time. That a partially bad direction is better than someone who will run full steam ahead into the biggest ditch he can find while running over the average Canadian on the way.
Beyond just a little alarming. Over 40% of the population basically said “We don’t want Canada to survive the next four years” with their vote.
No, that’s going way too far.
Bear in mind that although you might be focused on this election as a single-issue voter, lots of other people don’t share that focus. When there’s polling specifically about whether Canada should join the US the positives are in the below-10% range, comfortably into “just crazies and loons” territory. But a political party like the Conservatives have a wide range of positions and people can find them compelling in various ways. Conservative voters also want Canada to survive, they just have different opinions from you on how to accomplish that and what “survival” means.
I’m quite happy that the Conservatives didn’t get into power, I think Carney is the right person to be leading Canada right now. But let’s not jump to painting people we disagree with as being all a bunch of lunatic monsters.
You’re full of shit. As per the link, 30% of Canadians polled “would consider annexation if offered US citizenship and conversion of Canadian financial assets to US dollars.”
Speaking of being full of shit. As per that link, you’re going to great lengths to cherry pick “favorable” results out of the wide variety of options that the polls covered.
Also, that link is from 16 January 2025. Trump hadn’t even been inaugurated yet. Do you realize just how big a shift in Canadian (and global) opinion has been going on in the time since then? The whole point of the article this thread is attached to is mocking how Poilivere’s party has lost, a result that’s in large part a result of the increase in Canadian identity and patriotism that’s followed in the wake of Trump’s attacks once he was in office.
Abd your stance is that 2/3 of the people who would already be fine with that idea were also completely unaware of the complete shitshow that the second Trump presidency would be and that they wouldn’t be defending that stance? Poilievre had a campaign manager wearing a MAGA hat, was asked a question about his stance on campaign employees doing such stuff, and he blathered on about the Liberals and taxes, and they still got 40% of the vote. But please, do go on and tell me how 30% of Canadians being okay with joining America is unreasonable.
3 liberal terms
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The problem with incremental improvement is the lack of fireworks and circus.
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The great thing about improvement is it is improvement.
Sorry if #2 bores you. See #1
People do just get tired of an incumbent government. It’s not even related to who they are or how good a job they’re doing.
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Wasn’t an option. Much like MAGA down south, Poppinfresh completely hijacked the conservative narrative; refusing to allow reporters to follow him on the campaign trail, forbidding Conservative MPs from talking to the media without his approval and only with his selected talking points.
Any divisive information from the Conservative party came by way of leaks and insiders. Poppinfresh in NO WAY wanted there to be any division shown in public. For him, like Trump, it was all hail the leader or he’ll do what he can to get your career shit-canned.
In many way, I looked at this election not only as Left vs Right, but at least as much about the Conservatives battle to take back their party to a (slightly) more sane time when differences were largely about economic policies instead of cultural ones.
PP’s special skills are:
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Be mad at anything
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Fly under the radar and do nothing (20 years as PM, a single co-sponsored bill, that’s all he has ever done)
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Initial reaction to him staying on as leader: “What? Is he insane?”
The immediate followup reaction: “Oh right yes, we knew that about him already.”
And I had to check the outlet for the headline.
Beaverton or not, it is true. No one wants to be known as the company that hired the failed trucker convoy pm.
He for sure ends up spending the rest of his days in some shitty conservative think tank. Or Alberta provincial politics.
2 Hot takes:
- This is, what? The fourth election the Conservatives have lost in a row? The third since the Liberals first ran for retaining their position as the governing party, at the least. If they aren’t winning with moderate candidates, and they aren’t winning with reformist far-right candidates, how can the Conservatives justify to their own party that they can competently prove themselves to be a governing party when seemingly no leadership style is shaking the Liberals?
This is likely going to lead to the Conservatives splitting between the reformers and the moderates once more, as either is going to believe the other side is inhibiting their ability to lead a new government. Reformers will likely solidify everywhere between the East of the Rockies and West of Ontario (Eastern BC and all the Prairie Provinces, I’m thinking), while the Conservatives will have to once again fight for representation largely in Ontario and (maybe) the Atlantic Provinces.
It would be nice to see the Right-wing splitting their votes the same way the Left does for NDP and Liberals, if for no other reason than to help make Minority governments more prominent in Canada as a whole; however,
- Doug Ford might genuinely abandon the Provincial government and use this as a chance to catapult his brand to the Federal level. He could also (maybe?) be the first politician to serve on a Municipal, Provincial and Federal level within a single career. As much of a shit-show as he is, he also undeniably can win seats in Ontario, most crucially in the Toronto area, and the Federal Conservatives really need someone who can do that.
I heard a podcast speculate that Doug Ford would be PM one day and tbh i shudder at the thought of that. A canada wide bicycle ban? Selling national parks to build mcmansions? Public funding for private amenities only the rich can afford?
All of that is possible under Ford as PM.
