• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    To me it’s weird to even think of repairing stuff you buy as a “right” - that’s a given. The issue is the nonexistent “right” of a seller to restrict what a customer does with a product after buying it. That’s as ridiculous as a shoe company trying to dictate where you can or can’t walk. It’s a no-brainer, and should never have to be argued in court or anywhere else.

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      When written out like this, it seems simple as - but the most simple version really isn’t what’s at stake. Companies make and trademark specialized tools for their goods, to prevent third parties from providing repairs. Warrantys are written to keep a company from being liable for repair/replacement if a customer attempts to repair a product themselves.

      Pretty much every case in the right to repair movement is a challenge to a legally acceptable means of market capture, that just happens to create a stupendously shitty consumer environment.

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        Market capture is unethical in almost all cases. Unlike humans, if a ‘for profit’ business model can’t adapt and survive in a market, then it doesn’t need to be put on life support indefinately.
        It’s like people learned all the wrong lessons from the big beginners of this crud show…(Thanks a lot MS and A**le) This is a major reason of why we can’t have nice stuff.

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          2 days ago

          Absolutely agreed that market capture is unethical, but that doesn’t have much to do with the legal basis of right to repair cases.

  • Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    I was just thinking about this the other day after removing the fifteenth torx screw from the bottom of my Shark vacuum’s roller head. They hid screws under the pipe hatch and the two tiny friction mounted front wheels. Vacuums are triple the price and rollers are no longer removable from the outside.

    45 minutes to fix what is essentially a five minute problem. They’d rather you throw it away and buy the whole head unit from the site. They even have bars blocking you from cutting hair from the roller without opening it.

    Shit like this is why I still use an iPod 5th gen. No internet. No tracking apps. Just you and your hard copied music on a device that can be opened, repaired, and modded.

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      3 days ago

      I dunno how many vacuum cleaners I’ve scrapped for free from damn near everywhere and 90% of them only have a mega clogged hose. 5 minute fix usually and I made my own skookum twisted wire reamer in 5 minutes with wire and a drill. People throw away good stuff without bothering with it and just buy a new one instead of saving themselves time and money by eliminating the obvious. If a vacuum design gets too complex, I simplify with sheetrock screws. Warranties are made to be broken by making it work yourself. The things you learn that way also helps other areas in life all around.

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    I’m glad. I hate the fact that TV’s are so cheap now that fixing them literally isn’t worth it. Same with a lot of laptops and tablets and stuff. I’d much rather have a chunkier phone than one I won’t ever be able to fix.

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      In the last few years I’ve fixed about a dozen TVs, they can definitely suck to fix at times (especially the really new ones) but in general the fixes have been simple. And all of them were snagged out of the dumpster at my apartment complex.

      And that’s just the TVs I’ve fixed. I like to fix things.

      In terms of phones they’re a nightmare though. I’m keeping an eye on HMD phones and Fairphone though as both of them are a LOT easier to fix than other brands.

      In the event of my current phone breaking I’d love to get either one of those brands.

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          For TVs it’s usually really simple, like internal fuses or blown caps. And a few with bad backlights or mainboards that are dead.

          For 2 of them it’s been shorts in the LCD itself which meant I had to block the clock pin from the TCON board for the specific part of the screen with the short. Basically killing a line of pixels to get the TV working again. In general if the TV is 4k and smaller than like 45 inches you’ll never see it unless you look for it.

          That’s a super involved fix (involving A LOT of trial and error to find the right pin) but it keeps it out of a landfill.

          In general fixing a TV is always cost effective unless the actual LCD has physical damage.

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            5 days ago

            hey, I’m getting into this kind of repair. I have good soldering skills and am great at taking things apart, but do you have any tips on how to find the fault? even it’s just a blow capacitor, what am I looking for?

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    Am I the only one that finds it weird that Louis Rossman is not even mentioned in those articles about right to repair?

    I mean, he said that he didn’t care at all if his name was mentioned or not and that he would be happy if the movement got traction “by itself”, without him being involved.

    But I still think it’s weird that he is not even mentioned when they are giving examples of pro-repair groups/shops etc. Idk…

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      4 days ago

      I tend to assume malice with regards to the news. They likely dont want to drive people to his give him traffic because then they might agree with him.

      The news are owned by the same billionaire class as the companies that make many products.