Updated, this should work better: “Documentation of Lemmy.ml’s Extremism [Megathread]”

I just instance blocked them

How do?

You can block the users too! At least on connect, and I think on voyager as well.

It really is hilarious. They can’t resist the urge to try and spread their filth outside of their instance, and get laughed at and shit on every single time.

Lemmy itself is apolitical

This is an absurd statement.

Its birth was political.

Its development model, licensing and network structure is political.

Its anticaptialist financial model is political. And this is not trivial or disposable. This is why there’s no ads or addiction-driven features shoved in the code. That’s why it’s not subject to venture capital and prone to enshittification (in the original sense of the word). That’s why people and communities can host diverse instances. That’s why you can join lemmy.world and block lemmy.ml. Those aren’t decisions in a vacuum or ideals arising from moral purity, these are the results of choices based in ideology. And even if an instance claims to be apolitical or even contradictory in politics, or even if a fork of Lemmy does this, this does not invalidate or evaporate Lemmy’s political factors, it only adds others. For example, lemmy.world is infamously liberalist, and bans people in congruence with that ideology: see Luigi discussions for a clear, well-known example, as well as being more tolerant of bigotry: see /c/conservative

What Im talking about isnt idealistic or hypothetical. To see this idea in action, see the beginning of BlueSky enshittification already forming. And look at the much older Mastodon which has resisted these same pressures. Mastodon can avoid the enshittification because its political structures are not beholden to profit and popularity, while BlueSky is pressured, e.g., to comply with Turkish state censorship to avoid losing market share.

100% agree with the last part. But misinformation is fought by having discussions about it, not by censoring it.

You say you are afraid of the potential damage its doing to the fediverse. Well, now you have removed your voice from the discussions. They will still be there, even if you are not looking at them. You just walked away from it.

You know when you “protect” kids by not talking about something, it only becomes more exciting to them? I dont know, I rather just talk to the kids about it. Have a laugh about how weird the world is together.

And I agree, debating them is not really worth doing. But state your opinion and walk away. I have some unpopular opinions too that Lemmy doesnt like. But I keep saying them. Because i still think im right about those things. But im not going to debate for long. Its not worth our time.

I have, I have also seen world comms ban even mild critique of the Democrats. For people who claim to hate tankies y’all do enforce blind loyalty to the party quite often.

What I do see from .world is a bunch of moderators doing moderator things and very little admin actions

Yeah that gets annoying when you’re the moderator of a non-world community and I am. They rarely ban people and they allow anyone to make a new acc very easily.

but I don’t see the .world admins in every comm across .world removing posts and comments critical of a certain agenda or to push a narrative, like on .ml

I keep seeing people say that but I havent personally seen that and I have said a lot against authoritarian regimes

I see it being dealt with accordingly in the modlog, in fact that’s one of the main times I do see non-.ml admin actions in there, site banning actual bigots

I have been called a “self hating trans person” for being a leftist and had my entire gender invalided, called “fake” more times than I can count by world trolls and I have found nearly every time they were applauded.

Plus if .world really had a transphobe problem, ada would have defederated from it by now.

There are talks and serious considerations, many blahaj members want this

Have you seriously not seen .ml tankies throw around “liberals” or “shitlibs” in the exact same way

Tbh there are many times shitlib is more than justified and I see it very often. Common shitlib arguments include “we should compromise on the Israel-Palestine conflict, what if they only genocide half as many civilians?”, “yeah I support Trans rights, but what if you gave up sports and trans youth as a compromise?”, “yeah the system is rigged but if you dont vote blue no matter who you’re not trying hard enough”. Shitlib makes sense, it says you are a liberal and you are full of shit. Meanwhile tankie is just a blatant attempt to categorize the entire left as authoritarian.