This was originally titled: 1 Christian v 20 Atheists, but it seems they changed it after JP keeps muddying the waters.
Update: I get why most of you wouldn’t want to watch the video. I went to a men’s group therapy session and went after the organizer for recommending me a Jordan Peterson book. I get it. The video, however, isn’t a Jordan Peterson channel (yes I know we’re still bumping him in the algorithm) but I think it fit the community for sure.
I just don’t get why you would comment: “I’m not watching that.” Congrats dude. I know it’s for you, not every video is. There is some value in seeing Peterson get dunked on and seeing the way he weasels out of things and getting called out. If you think it’s not worth the cost of watching the video. I’m not going to disagree with that. That’s cool too. We can all be cool about things.
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Stop feeding the troll. He thrives on the attention, negative or positive. If it’s positive, he was right all along. If it’s negative, he’s a martyr.
Stop treating him like he has any legitimate thing to say, and let him fade into irrelevance.
Bingo.
If you’re going to a debate and you refuse to explain your position, you are not debating in good faith.
Further, he’d always shift his definition whenever his current one got into hot water while simultaneously sealioning his counter part.
The dude’s argument is basically pseudo-scientific technobabble for the sole purpose of sounding impressive while also advocating for white supremacy.
I don’t disagree with you. I think you’re correct and watching this was difficult as I hate Peterson.
To play Devil’s Advocate, I don’t think ignoring these guys have had the effect we’ve wanted nor having them fade into obscurity. Most of us that hate them haven’t tuned in and they have just a huge sway now in public discourse.
Although stepping back from what I just said. You have a good point in that it’s currently less relevant because Peterson and the Daily Wire have sunk numbers now and I think that’s just great.
I like the spirit of jubilee in bringing people together that disagree and chatting it out? Even though I don’t think the format in changing minds that much.
Platforming this shitstain only serves his purpose.
Yeah, I’m not going to watch that. If it was reversed and it was, say, Christopher Hitchens vs 20 christians, I’d be irritated, saying, “If he was wrong, one person would be enough. Why not just have one person who is knowledgeable and a good debater, rather than 20 who aren’t?”
In an intellectual debate, a larger number of people debating only matters if they are good debaters and are working closely together.
This format might be good if you know the 20 people are wrong, for example, “One scientist vs 20 anti-vaxxers”, because it would become one expert exposing 20 lunatics. But for a religious debate, where you cannot prove either side, this is a terrible format.
Dr Mike did an episode with anti vaxxers actually. That is about how it went, but he’s too kind to go for the dunks.
“Never argue with an idiot. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ~ Mark Twain
I feel as though Jordan Peterson got outplayed a lot here and his dodging of questions and stuff exposed his charlatanism (word?). So I don’t think he beat them.
I do love the quote. Although I also love the wrestling with the pig one, where you both get muddy but the pig enjoys it :)
[edit] thanks for more downvotes! [/edit]
Jubilee definitely tried to stack the deck so that JP could “win” this debate. (which is usually why I avoid these kinds of debates. They’re almost never in good faith.)
But they’re going to take the good sound bites and make it look like atheists are bad and he’s going to keep pushing his white supremacist bullshit.
For people not wanting to give JP/Jubillee clicks… Mindshift has a reaction video where you can see the giant shit show bit by bit.
