It’s likely that Hackaday readers have among them a greater than average number of people who can name one special thing they did on September 23rd, 2002. On that day a new web browser was re…
I just play League: Shadow Legends on my phone through double NordVPN accounts (if you sign up now you get two, so you get double protection) with Incogni. My news? Ground News.
Those are the four internet companies I use for my day to day business. I also buy a lot of tshirts and merch. I got a coffee cup with a cat on it, in a funny pose.
The person is saying that they’ve replaced web browsing with playing a cash grab mobile game through two VPNs. On Lemmy. Are we really that far gone? Replaced Firefox with Raid Shadow Legends is “worryingly realistic”?
and i kinda agree with them; i hate the chromium monopoly but i’ve been using vivaldi more precisely because it was european based (aside from the uplink chromium) and the fact they’ve taken a hardline stance against adding ai features. being able to add filterlists to the build in blocker is nice too.
and this is from someone who has loved mozilla since netscape days and has used firefox since it was firebird.
I have been on Firefox since it was called Mosaic*. I changed to Vivaldi because they actually have a shit of features I use and like. But then Google said, “no ublock for u!”, so I said, “fuck u, no customer for u!” and went back to Firefox.
It’s literally the one reason I use FF. Because I’m old and get the FUCK off my lawn.
I’ve been using various Firefox forks occasionally since before it was cool and that’s still a respectable choice in my opinion. I still cling to the faint hope that maybe Google will not be in exclusive control of web standards but it might be pointless if everyone is ready to hop on the hip chromium skin of the month every time Mozilla corp does something stupid and out of touch. Manifest v3 should have been a much bigger wake-up call for the privacy minded chromium user, but I guess people are satisfied as long as Google lets them block most ads if they feel like allowing it.
As I understand it, there were genuine security reasons for Manifest v3. Browser extensions are a great vector for malware and under manifest v2 it was very easy to sneakily distribute that malware … or something.
Honestly I didn’t look into it that much because I’d use Firefox either way.
I don’t like Brave’s leadership or crypto, but the problem for me is that Brave ticks the most boxes
Adblocking
Privacy
Security
Multiplatform
Web Apps
There are browsers that do stuff better, like Vanadium and Trivalent, but those are locked to specific platforms, have poor built in ad blockers, and encourage you to never install extensions for security reasons.
And if I want to avoid the Chromium monopoly, there’s Webkit which still manages to have good security and privacy, but there’s no Webkit browser on Android and on Linux, Gnome Web feels slow to use and doesn’t have a good adblocker.
That being said, I’m still on Firefox right now. Chromium has some weird quirks on the desktop that annoys me so much.
I wouldn’t consider using IronFox since, from what I hear, Firefox’s security is worst on Android. Even Linux has better sandboxing than it. While I’m sure IronFox is better, I’m not sure how much better it can be.
As for Librewolf, I’m considering it. I’ve actually had it installed for maybe two years at this point but never really used it. It’s nice that it removes the annoying popups from Firefox and lacks the crypto of Brave. And it should be more secure due to the hardening and disabling of features. And while the security and sandboxing isn’t as strong as it is on Windows/MacOS or Chromium’s, at least it should be better than standard Firefox.
Can’t wait for the followup piece to be a shitty ad for brave.
I just play League: Shadow Legends on my phone through double NordVPN accounts (if you sign up now you get two, so you get double protection) with Incogni. My news? Ground News.
Those are the four internet companies I use for my day to day business. I also buy a lot of tshirts and merch. I got a coffee cup with a cat on it, in a funny pose.
Can you please explain how you think that works?
I assume its over-the-top sarcasm
I worry that some people actually think that’s how it works.
The person is saying that they’ve replaced web browsing with playing a cash grab mobile game through two VPNs. On Lemmy. Are we really that far gone? Replaced Firefox with Raid Shadow Legends is “worryingly realistic”?
No we are not, but September started early 30 years ago. Look, let’s play nice with the kids. They are the ones we are gonna send on beer runs later.
It is, sir. You can rest soundly. Here’s a bunch of these if you feel like you need them in the future:
/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s/s
Just like putting the second condom on your balls.
Yes, you get one account with two accounts, then you route the first through the second account = double protection. Make sure to port forward.
they kinda already had a followup piece here; https://hackaday.com/2025/04/07/which-browser-should-i-use-in-2025/ which points to vivaldi and librewolf
and i kinda agree with them; i hate the chromium monopoly but i’ve been using vivaldi more precisely because it was european based (aside from the uplink chromium) and the fact they’ve taken a hardline stance against adding ai features. being able to add filterlists to the build in blocker is nice too.
and this is from someone who has loved mozilla since netscape days and has used firefox since it was firebird.
I have been on Firefox since it was called Mosaic*. I changed to Vivaldi because they actually have a shit of features I use and like. But then Google said, “no ublock for u!”, so I said, “fuck u, no customer for u!” and went back to Firefox.
It’s literally the one reason I use FF. Because I’m old and get the FUCK off my lawn.
* it had a swirling thing
i have ublock origin but also within vivaldi:settings/privacy, you can click manage sources and add your own tracker and blocking filter lists too.
Hmm.
Mah ninja.
Thanks for the tip!
I’ve been using various Firefox forks occasionally since before it was cool and that’s still a respectable choice in my opinion. I still cling to the faint hope that maybe Google will not be in exclusive control of web standards but it might be pointless if everyone is ready to hop on the hip chromium skin of the month every time Mozilla corp does something stupid and out of touch. Manifest v3 should have been a much bigger wake-up call for the privacy minded chromium user, but I guess people are satisfied as long as Google lets them block most ads if they feel like allowing it.
As I understand it, there were genuine security reasons for Manifest v3. Browser extensions are a great vector for malware and under manifest v2 it was very easy to sneakily distribute that malware … or something.
Honestly I didn’t look into it that much because I’d use Firefox either way.
I don’t like Brave’s leadership or crypto, but the problem for me is that Brave ticks the most boxes
There are browsers that do stuff better, like Vanadium and Trivalent, but those are locked to specific platforms, have poor built in ad blockers, and encourage you to never install extensions for security reasons.
And if I want to avoid the Chromium monopoly, there’s Webkit which still manages to have good security and privacy, but there’s no Webkit browser on Android and on Linux, Gnome Web feels slow to use and doesn’t have a good adblocker.
That being said, I’m still on Firefox right now. Chromium has some weird quirks on the desktop that annoys me so much.
Why not just IronFox and LibreWolf?
I wouldn’t consider using IronFox since, from what I hear, Firefox’s security is worst on Android. Even Linux has better sandboxing than it. While I’m sure IronFox is better, I’m not sure how much better it can be.
As for Librewolf, I’m considering it. I’ve actually had it installed for maybe two years at this point but never really used it. It’s nice that it removes the annoying popups from Firefox and lacks the crypto of Brave. And it should be more secure due to the hardening and disabling of features. And while the security and sandboxing isn’t as strong as it is on Windows/MacOS or Chromium’s, at least it should be better than standard Firefox.