Since it’s hellworld, I’m sure the answer will be no but…is it irrational to ask ourselves whether their complete mask off moment is happening a bit too quickly?

Material conditions are getting worse, make no mistake. Capitalism is due for a catastrophic event. But, we’re kind of not there yet, and the chuds are making such a big stink about being the catalysts for this once in a generation ™ extinction event in capitalism. And the amount of poo, So much poo, they throw it everywhere and they do it so loudly that even the most politically unaware are made aware of their pant shitting wrecking this paper tiger of an economy.

So that combined with all the flat out fucking weird and supremely distasteful shit they’re doing and saying makes me feel like they’re overplaying their hand. Atp they just have to kill all of us because i can’t imagine they’re not turning off a lot of normies

I dunno, there’s a lot of people who are pretty content with being bigoted through some veil of propriety, don’t think they want to fight on the kkk frontlines and be confronted for it. But I’m probably being extremely hopeful.

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    So every American administration has been “committing genocide” since 1948?

    Yes. Actually, long before that, but they weren’t this genocide.

    I wonder why your shrill screeching doesn’t attract more converts to the cause.

    “You made me be Hitler by pointing out that I was already being Hitler.”

    Edit: I understand that this conversation is extremely unlikely to change your mind, and the cognitive dissonance of defending genocide while thinking of yourself (as most people do) as someone who opposes it is probably driving a lot of these replies, but I really hope that over time you reconsider these things.

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      I’m not being Hitler. Jesus, kids. Social media incentivizes maximalist positions, and this has clearly not been good for society.

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        I’m not being Hitler. Jesus, kids. Social media incentivizes maximalist positions, and this has clearly not been good for society.

        You’re right, I’m using hyperbole for a joking effect, hence the quotation marks. You’re not even being a Hitlerite, technically, because it’s a different genocide you’re supporting, not the Holocaust. You can see how this doesn’t make a difference for people who oppose genocide, though.

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          Based on some of these replies, I think more than a couple commenters here might actually support the OG genocide

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            Based on some of these replies, I think more than a couple commenters here might actually support the OG genocide

            You have no idea what you’re talking about on several fronts here.

            First, that you think anyone on this instance would support the Holocaust. We’re comparing you to Hitler as an insult, not a compliment, just so you understand that clearly (though if you hadn’t understood so far, I’m not sure how much this will help).

            Second, that you think the Holocaust is “the OG genocide”. This alone makes me think you are missing a lot of critical historical and political context for a discussion on any subject related to history and politics.

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              The term genocide was coined to describe the Holocaust, so it literally was the first one. Back in Genghis Khan’s day, they just called Tuesday.

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                The term genocide was coined to describe the Holocaust, so it literally was the first one.

                This user is now banned, but I have to wonder if they have literally not heard of Armenians, to pick one incredibly famous example. It’s almost like genocide existed before the specific word “genocide” was coined, which the inventor of the term explicitly acknowledged himself.

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                It was coined to describe the Holocaust years after the fact, applied retroactively. Like most words to describe actions, that does not mean it cannot be correctly applied retroactively to other events that meet the same criteria. Do you deny that the slaughter of Indigenous Americans was a genocide?

                By my understanding, Ghengis Khan mostly did not do things that map on to “genocide.” He was a horrific warlord who lead the slaughter of a baffling volume of people, but genocide does not simply mean “killing a whole lot of people.”

                At least from my understanding of history, his goal broadly wasn’t purging ethnicities, it was owning territory and especially settlements to collect tribute from while crushing any military opposition. This is just what warlords typically do.

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                  Absolutely baffling for someone to seem to think that a concept was created by the word invented to describe it. I guess murder didn’t exist until someone invented the word either - we should get a time machine and kill that asshole before he has a chance to make that murder by inventing a term for it.

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                    I can’t tell if they just spoke without thinking about it, and then clumsily doubled down out of pride, or if they are that extreme of a Holocaust exceptionalist. I’m inclined to think the former, but idk

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            “if you oppose Israel’s genocide then you support the holocaust! I’m not an Israel supporter though, honest!”