you have to care about birth rates to some degree out of simple materialist need, like, you need people to do things in the future and take care of an aging population that is less and less able to care for itself
but yeah, personally I don’t think the planet needs billions of people on it, but what’s the solution? arguing for a managed population decline could easily be construed as (or actually be, depending on who’s managing it) eugenics bullshit
Why do I have to care about birthrates? If Humanity can’t survive without capitalism and can’t survive without people reproducing of their own free will, maybe it shouldn’t exist. Everyone is going to die regardless in the end. Why keep re-creating miserable conditions where you Factory produce human beings just so they can grow corn for you to eat when you’re too old to do it yourself?
If women want to give birth and are unable to, create conditions where as many women can give birth as they want to, solve the issue that stops them from being able to.
If women don’t want to give birth, but humanity is making them, because they need more human drones to keep the humanity going, yes i think women should get together and say screw you assholes. Extinction is preferable to coerced birth.
to keep the humanity going, yes i think women should get together and say screw you assholes
Women are part of humanity and might not want to starve to death in their own shit in old age, not everything is part of some Gender Conflict where The Men are the only ones who care about birth rates
Don’t go off at ME like i’m some birth rate champion fascist btw I’m literally the “people shouldn’t even be parents” guy, I’m just explaining to you why birth rates matter outside of fascist race replacement crank concerns because
If Humanity can’t survive without capitalism and can’t survive without people reproducing of their own free will
it’s something that matters outside of capitalism unless yes you want to just throw up your hands and go “i don’t care about a functioning society”
I would also add that, anecdotally, there seem to be a lot of women who want to be mothers but struggle to find partners and the stability to do so (up till recently this was the case for my sister, thankfully she found a good partner last year).
That’s not exactly an ideal situation for women either, if many of they want to experience motherhood but can’t.
I said I want to solve birth rate problem by improving society somewhat, not by making women give more births. If that’s controversial then yes that insult was aimed at you, otherwise it was aimed at people who think like that.
You do realize they kept r**e legal and still do in some places, because they are scared that it will reduce birth rates? That they took away access to birth control and now we have a crisis of children without parents? Children who are doing crime and sitting in prison because they don’t have any guidance and gangsters are using foster homes as nesting grounds for future recruits. Do you think this is a functioning society? Do you have any idea how many women are abused? Do you have any idea how terrified I am about my sister and pray every day that nothing bad happens to her even though I don’t believe such a thing as god exists in a world like this. That’s the entire reason why I emphasize addressing the root cause.
I’m taking way more restraint than I should when discussing these issues so I’m sorry if an insult aimed at people who want to implement such practices hurt your feelings.
you have to care about birth rates to some degree out of simple materialist need, like, you need people to do things in the future and take care of an aging population that is less and less able to care for itself
but yeah, personally I don’t think the planet needs billions of people on it, but what’s the solution? arguing for a managed population decline could easily be construed as (or actually be, depending on who’s managing it) eugenics bullshit
Why do I have to care about birthrates? If Humanity can’t survive without capitalism and can’t survive without people reproducing of their own free will, maybe it shouldn’t exist. Everyone is going to die regardless in the end. Why keep re-creating miserable conditions where you Factory produce human beings just so they can grow corn for you to eat when you’re too old to do it yourself?
If women want to give birth and are unable to, create conditions where as many women can give birth as they want to, solve the issue that stops them from being able to.
If women don’t want to give birth, but humanity is making them, because they need more human drones to keep the humanity going, yes i think women should get together and say screw you assholes. Extinction is preferable to coerced birth.
Women are part of humanity and might not want to starve to death in their own shit in old age, not everything is part of some Gender Conflict where The Men are the only ones who care about birth rates
Don’t go off at ME like i’m some birth rate champion fascist btw I’m literally the “people shouldn’t even be parents” guy, I’m just explaining to you why birth rates matter outside of fascist race replacement crank concerns because
it’s something that matters outside of capitalism unless yes you want to just throw up your hands and go “i don’t care about a functioning society”
I would also add that, anecdotally, there seem to be a lot of women who want to be mothers but struggle to find partners and the stability to do so (up till recently this was the case for my sister, thankfully she found a good partner last year).
That’s not exactly an ideal situation for women either, if many of they want to experience motherhood but can’t.
I said I want to solve birth rate problem by improving society somewhat, not by making women give more births. If that’s controversial then yes that insult was aimed at you, otherwise it was aimed at people who think like that.
You do realize they kept r**e legal and still do in some places, because they are scared that it will reduce birth rates? That they took away access to birth control and now we have a crisis of children without parents? Children who are doing crime and sitting in prison because they don’t have any guidance and gangsters are using foster homes as nesting grounds for future recruits. Do you think this is a functioning society? Do you have any idea how many women are abused? Do you have any idea how terrified I am about my sister and pray every day that nothing bad happens to her even though I don’t believe such a thing as god exists in a world like this. That’s the entire reason why I emphasize addressing the root cause.
I’m taking way more restraint than I should when discussing these issues so I’m sorry if an insult aimed at people who want to implement such practices hurt your feelings.
oh my god go away, block