Yeah, I’m embarrassed - but more about our government and multiple iterations of it having completely shortsighted approaches to just about everything

The irony of a politician complaining that healthcare workers are playing politics is just rude.

But that’s been this coalition, all the way (one of my more diplomatic descriptions)

Touché!

“We want to do our very best for our nurses and we think we’ve put a very fair offer on the table,” Health NZ chief executive Dale Bramley said.

Pull the other one, it’s got bells on!

Tall tale Dale… I hope he tastes vomit for weeks over this

Like I said, some good points.

I’ve been joking at work for years that we can no longer follow the best practice and how it’s now about finding the least-worst practise. Its a shame to think the police might be the following the same M. O.

(Mostly sarcasm)

Yep. There’s one healthy debate but it’s started by a particular individual who has a very derisive and inflammatory approach to things…

Some good points, you could browse it anonymously of you normally use an app?

Some stunning weather in welly today! Was nice to get out and soak it in

And it’s a brutal harvest, too - these clowns deserve everything they get.

180x the limit?! That’s appalling

Go fishieries officers!

I wonder what the fine will be? 2 slices of fuck all due to a promising rugby career or something, no doubt

I think I see what their getting at…

Nicola Willis’ body count is going to be amazingly high by the time their term is done (not sure if that should include restructured people that got a job elsewhere)

I’m just trying to get either of you to provide details or examples so you can have a constructive discussion as opposed to a vitriol-fest.

And you’ve done that, thanks!

I know this is the internet, but when will you two communicate constructively? (My point is each of you tend to be unhelpfully inflammatory. Trollish, even…).

Perhaps if you brought some examples it might help your argument?

That’s all I’ll say.

Tagging @[email protected] so it’s not all on ballpeen

I love that there’s some bright sparks tackling this from a different angle!

Policy is one thing buy the more novel approaches the better. Good on them!!

I never understood not liking them, it always shocks me that my feelings aren’t shared…

More for me, I guess

They sounds like some great childhood memories, awesome stuff

…and have been for fucking years!

I never figured out why - if finance somehow wouldn’t free up the funding or maybe the execs just want us to fail, it’s so frustrating

Wow, thats a lot!

Is the herald even remotely reliable for this sort of information?

They’re such a hyperbole-fest I gave up on them years ago (rather hypocritical of me, admittedly!)