Ah yes, the galaxy-brain take: ‘Vote count alone determines legitimacy.’ By that logic, the Electoral College is fake news, GOP voter suppression doesn’t matter, and Russia’s 2016 interference was irrelevant because ‘Trump got more votes in the right states.’ But sure, pretend the DNC’s thumb on the scale had zero effect on turnout, messaging, or voter access. Totally normal democracy.
Imagine a kids’ boxcar race where one competitor had:
- A professional engineer for a dad who designed the car
- Custom CNC-machined parts and high-end materials
- A team of adults helping them at every step
Meanwhile, the other kid:
- Built their car alone with basic tools
- Was actively discouraged from getting outside help
- Had race officials constantly changing rules to favor the first kid
Then, when the second kid lost, people said: ‘Well, the first kid just built a faster car, we don’t see a problem here.’
That’s what the 2016 primary was like. The DNC didn’t stuff ballots, but they rigged the game long before voting started. Through media collusion, debate manipulation, and voter suppression. And when sued, their lawyers literally argued, ‘We have no obligation to run a fair primary.’
So yes, Clinton got more votes. AFTER the DNC tilted the scales. Pretending that’s ‘democracy’ is like saying the boxcar race was fair because they allowed to poor kid to participate to begin with.
You’re either incapable of grasping systemic bias or pretending it doesn’t exist to ‘win’ an argument. Either way, I’ve already explained why ‘Clinton got more votes’ doesn’t absolve the DNC’s misconduct. Repeating yourself won’t change that. Have a day.
I think the disconnect here is between objective and subjective meaning. In an infinite multiverse, ‘reality’ isn’t a singular objective truth—it’s a collection of subjective experiences. But that doesn’t erase meaning; it just means meaning is something we assign, not something inherent.
You’re right that if every possible outcome exists, no single timeline is ‘objectively’ special. But in fiction (and arguably in reality), what matters is the perspective we focus on. A story isn’t weakened by the existence of other timelines—it’s strengthened by the fact that, out of infinite possibilities, this particular one is being told. The act of choosing a narrative is what gives it weight.
It’s the difference between nihilism (‘nothing matters, so why care?’) and absurdism (‘nothing matters* inherently, so we get to decide what does’). A multiverse doesn’t have to make things meaningless—it can highlight how rare and significant certain choices are, precisely because most versions of a person might not make them (e.g., Invincible).
I get the sense you’re resistant to this because it feels like it undermines objective meaning. But what if meaning was never objective to begin with?