aberrate_junior_beatnik (he/him)

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  • He did not carry out raids the likes of which we’ve seen in the past six months and he did not sanction them, which is what the comments about the meme are suggesting.

    Obama absolutely did carry out and sanction deportation raids. To be clear, I’m not claiming he was as aggressive as Trump is being now. The image itself is an attempt to point out that Obama did so in a more orderly fashion.

    My point, then, is that there can be “3.1 million ‘deported’” based on a very loose definition of a practical daily event at the border

    Again, your characterization of these deportations all being people showing up at the border without papers is unsubstantiated. Nothing about expedited removal requires a person be present at the border. I could be mistaken about this, but a “removal” implies that a person is not at a border crossing. Indeed, in the MPI report, the tables listing deportation numbers have separate columns for border apprehensions and removals, and the removal column for Obama is at around 3M.

    A few points: Obama had fewer border apprehensions and removals than both Bush and Clinton. This could be the case for any number of reasons, one of which could be lighter enforcement. But it is the case that the Obama administration bragged about its hawkishness on the border. My understanding is he did so in a failed attempt to appease the GOP and get DACA put into legislation. But regardless of all of this, it seems ICE under Obama did remove around 3 million people, not at the border.













  • Al Franken is accused of more than just posing for a crass joke picture:

    In the days that followed, seven additional women came forward with allegations of inappropriate behavior during photo ops. Lindsay Menz accused Franken of touching her clothed “upper” buttocks while they posed for a photo at the Minnesota State Fair in 2010. Two anonymous women made similar complaints related to events during political events. Franken apologized, saying, “I’ve met tens of thousands of people and taken thousands of photographs, often in crowded and chaotic situations. I’m a warm person; I hug people. I’ve learned from recent stories that in some of those encounters, I crossed a line for some women—and I know that any number is too many.” Another anonymous woman said that after she was a guest on Franken’s radio show in 2006, Franken leaned in toward her face during a handshake and gave her “a wet, open-mouthed kiss” on the cheek when she turned her face aside. The same day, Stephanie Kemplin, an army veteran, told CNN that Franken held the side of her breast for 5 to 10 seconds “and never moved his hand” while posing for a photograph with her during a 2003 USO tour in Iraq.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Franken#Sexual_misconduct_allegations