LMAO, back in my Slackware days (3.4, 3.6, 4.0, 7.0), If I had to build from source, which was most things, step1: ./configure step2: install the missing package step3: goto step1 until no missing packages identified step4: make step5: make install

Sometimes my packages were too old, So I would just go to step1 for each package that also needed to be newer. I’m not even a Linux Expert, and I definitely wasn’t a Linux Expert then. All the building from source helps me jump into software projects and become productive real quick though.

eg although I usually forget to use it and just go with manpages.

I have several decades of using manpages, so you can understand the manpage reflex. If you don’t have that manpage muscle memory, I’d say give eg a shot.

I wonder about that. I’m probably not thinking of some very important things. Edge, Office, Active Directory, Co-Pilot, a Windows DE, userland programs(could even be GNU+Windows, don’t want to forget notepad and minesweeper), Powershell, DirectX and SDKs. I think they could do it in a year or two. I just figure, if they could improve Windows in the cloud, they would have done it. And they’ve already got a massive head start with Azure Linux.

Too much money. I worked on the Windows kernel from minkernel to onekernel. There were massive rewrites with the switch of the CE kernel out for minkernel when Windows Phone was in development. minkernel used to chew through eMMC memory in a few weeks on the first Windows Phone internal dev devices. Microsoft could, rewrite onekernel (I’m assuming they are still on onekernel), if they wanted. I think Windows is a dead man walking.

Microsoft keeps building up Azure Linux. Also they push Windows 365, the cloud based Windows OS for businesses (if I understand correctly). If I’m reading the tea leaves, Windows runs like shit in the cloud and is very expensive. Because of this, companies are switching to Linux containerization for their servers. Even on Azure, Linux is on 60% of the servers. Even I work exclusively on services containerized with Linux, never Windows. If Windows was so good, you’d think it would be the opposite.

Also, Microsoft makes all their money from Cloud, i.e. Linux. Which again is why Azure Linux is getting more and more development. So, imagine if you will, Windows 365 instances suddenly become Azure with a Windows userland ( Windows/Linux, not GNU/Linux). Most users wouldn’t even know. If you had problems, running your software, Microsoft could allow you to drop back to Full Windows. For every Azure Linux instance running as Windows 365, that would be a significant cost savings to Microsoft, especially when everybody does everything in Chrome. If that’s how it all unfolds, why would Microsoft want to put any major engineering dollars towards a kernel rewrite? They do have the money. I just don’t see Microsoft every fixing the kernel root kit situation. It’s 100% in their wheel house though.

Interesting, you think the normal case is that people don’t upgrade their devices. I wouldn’t have expected that from someone in 2025.

Color me shocked snap steam users are on 24.04. 61 active devices. Very representative I’m sure.

Exactly, it’s just people finding an excuse to complain about. It’s more like an extension of the Unix wars or the editor wars or the browser wars. People have to find a reason to justify their choice.

It’s LTS only. If you moved off of LTS, you wont’s see it again.

It’s only LTS. Desktop users rarely use LTS. Great to have live kernel updates on a developer workstation and servers though.

If you have pro enabled on an LTS version of Ubuntu, then you get live security updates, too include the kernel, as well as security updates for 10 years. Handy for developer workstations though. These people are whining and crying when desktop users rarely use the LTS version.

That’s awesome. This is why Linux is king. The Linux inertia is building.

https://rhinolinux.org/

Not Debian, but closer if you haven’t seen it.

Yeah, it’s the Cognitive Bias fallacy. Reminds me of all the anti Linux users who continue using the “Linux wont be ready for the average user, because no average user wants to write a compiler from scratch just so they can compile their programs”. If you don’t like something, you don’t like it. No problem, no reason to whine and cry about it. You like a different distro, great, go use it. That’s how distro’s work. Everything eventually helps everybody and you just pick a distro that gets you close to what you want. I started with Slackware 3.4, to me everything is great.

Thanks for the info. If I ever get upgraded security privileges, I’ll be sure to look for it.

It’s just the LTS version, most desktop users don’t run that. Just 6 months out of two years probably.

Just on LTS. Desktop users would only run LTS for 6 months or so. Right, and LTS only releases once every two years. I used LTS on my work laptop at my previous company. Great feature, but I can see it wouldn’t be as necessary for the end users. Hey, when everything is great, women have to find something to nit pick, am I right?!

It’s for LTS releases only. So you rarely see it on desktop, but for sure will see it on servers. My previous job, I ran LTS on my work laptop and would laugh at everyone always getting a forced update right before scrum. This new job, I have to use WSL on this Windows laptop and guess what, I’m in forced update hell. I can understand that for some(or most) the pro message would be annoying, but I’d rather see that pro message 100 times a day then get a forced update at random times. Especially right before meetings.

and the victim is denied any recourse or any fun in playing the game

That is how they get enjoyment from the game, denying other players.

Why not just use live updates? No rebooting till they actually have a reason to reboot.

I’ve heard that Alpha 7 has become pretty solid. I’m trying to hold out for Beta, since I use my machine to develop and I need my machine to be stable. I can wait just a couple more weeks. I’ve held out this long, hahaha.