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  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    19 hours ago

    Hey I just thought of a new litmus test called “the shit you support abroad says a lot about the shit you’ll support at home” so go on supporting a genocide then, democrats

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      5 hours ago

      you don’t even need to go that far. there’s so many dems who say “ice’s mission is great, it’s just the decorum bro they need the decorum bro”

  • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    21 hours ago

    I know it’s extremely beside the point, but isn’t it amazing how the blame is always solely on the left? Like, it takes two sides for there to be a disagreement, but the zionists sticking to their guns (literally) doesn’t seem to register as being a choice, only the anti-zionists doing so. idk dude, maybe you’re just a zionist.

  • DogThatWentGorp [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    22 hours ago

    My only response to this in the wild will only ever be “You’re right. I ruined it. And I’ll do it again if you don’t do what I want.”

    The American liberal fundamentally has no understanding of how power or negotiation works.

    • Poophammer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      17 hours ago

      Ill let burn this place into the ground if they dont do what I want lol, its going to happen anyway if we dont bite the bullet now. The fascist arent going away

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      22 hours ago

      Beautifully stated.

      Democrats would have needed to deliver on anything and I mean fucking anything popular to get 56% and keep it forever. It’s controlled opposition. They’re not trying to win. They’re not ideologically aligned with anything besides being the same machine that ratchets the atrocities and dampens popular movements.

      You have had this grievance about not liking Hilary Clinton in 2016 FOR A DECADE NOW! Where has it gotten you? A narrow margin after a Trump election (having to ult to keep Bernie out btw)? You had your chance to inspire anyone to see your POV but the PARLIAMENTARIAN got in the way? It was as nakedly ridiculous as any of Trump’s antics. That’s why there’s no change to healthcare, affordability for housing+kids, imperial war, public transport, genocide, FUCKING ANYTHING WE DON’T AGREE ON ANYTHING. AN ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT AGREES WITH TRUMP MORE THAN THEY AGREE WITH ME. SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY STOPPING?! FROM MY POV ITS NOT EVEN STOPPING TRUMP ITS KEEPING THE SEAT WARM FOR THE NEXT ONE BUT THE NEXT ONE HAPPENED IMMEDIATELY AFTER AND IT WAS TRUMP AGAIN. DONT WORRY M’LORD I RATCHETED IT JUST LIKE YOU ASKED

  • whiskers165 [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    21 hours ago

    After Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and finally the Kamala Harris debacle I think the Democrats have proven beyond a shadow of doubt that they need a total reboot before there is any kind of unconditional support like, “vote blue”. Even if you don’t believe they are in on this with the Republicans the best case scenario is political malpractice, criminal negligence. They won’t even run on policies that are popular with their base for fucks sake; how can you even be more angry with the nonvoters than the Democratic party itself?

    Rationally wouldn’t it be easier to petition a few thousand elected Democrats to run on an actually palatable platform than convince millions of apathetic voters to vote for something they don’t believe in?

    • Matty Roses@lemmygrad.ml
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      14 hours ago

      American liberalism is secular Calvinism - there is no need to actually do anything, as this world is unchangeable. The point of politics is to show that you are of the more graced population. And that can be measured by how you support the Democratic party.

      And like all the religious, they hate the apostate far more than the infidel.

    • lil_tank [any, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      18 hours ago

      Both reps and dems are losing support, but that won’t change anything because even a catastrophic 20% turnover wouldn’t threaten the power in place if there isn’t an organised revolutionary movement

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Shortly after my conversation with Kagame, I ran into an American military-intelligence officer, who was having a supper of Jack Daniel’s and Coca-Cola at a Kigali bar. “I hear you’re interested in genocide,” he said. “Do you know what genocide is?”

    I asked him to tell me.

    “A cheese sandwich,” he said. “Write it down. Genocide is a cheese sandwich.”

    I asked him how he figured that.

    “What does anyone care about a year-old cheese sandwich?” he said. “Genocide, genocide, genocide. Cheese sandwich, cheese sandwich, cheese sandwich. Who gives a shit? Crimes against humanity—where’s humanity? Who’s humanity? You? Me? Did you see a crime committed against you? Hey, just a million Rwandans. Did you ever hear about the Genocide Convention?”

    I said I had. It was passed by the United Nations in 1948, in the days after Nuremberg; it has been ratified by scores of countries; and it says that they will all undertake to prevent and punish genocide if it should ever happen again. “That convention,” the American at the bar said, “makes a nice wrapping for a cheese sandwich.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/12/18/after-the-genocide

  • God, I really can’t understand how these guys can directly say “being anti-genocide is a woke-left litmus test” and then argue that they and their fellow liberals are not fascists, rather than just being the Strasserite (“left” as a relative term compared to the Hitlerite wing) Nazis.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      22 hours ago

      These are probably watchers of lib journalists and commentators who implicitly supported the genocide when they said “Our way of life is better”; the slaughter of the global South isn’t a crime to them, it’s just a little embarrassment.