I apologize if this is old news, but I just noticed it. It looks like Kagi has added Fediverse Forums as a default Web search option.

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    7 days ago

    Not using Kagi because its an American company is valid. But people are too used to products that are free because they make the person using them the product. There is still a transaction with a free product.

    Kagi is not free because they respect your privacy and don’t sell your data.

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      7 days ago

      I’d happily pay for search, but Kagi is way too expensive.

      10 searches a day, for $5/month? (US)

      Like, that is way too much.

      I can receive thousands and send thousands of emails per day for that price. Is search really that much more expensive?

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        6 days ago

        $10/m is unlimited searches though…

        And yeah, searches are actually quite expensive. There’s a LOT of infrastructure that goes into making something unique with your own search engine that isn’t just a wrapper over Google.

        The actual compute cost per search, in 2024, was $0.0125. Kagi states they want to keep Costa below $0.015 per search, but their search partners are a major expense.

        That ofc ignores all the supporting infra, devs, support…etc that goes into making it all possible.

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          6 days ago

          The business model just doesn’t make sense then (using search partners).

          Because $60, let alone $120 US, a year is far more than most people would be willing to pay.

          Dunno what to say, it’s just more than most people can justify paying for the service.

          I’m gonna stick with DuckDuckGo and the newly free mullvad cached search

          • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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            5 days ago

            I mean, the business model works? They make money, they pay staff, and they are growing.

            I don’t know what you’re talking about, people have price sensitivity of course. You are projecting yours onto “everyone”, is it not a successful business?

            There’s a niche they cater to, if you are not that niche then you are not that niche. Doesn’t mean the niche doesn’t exist.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      7 days ago

      But people are too used to products that are free because they make the person using them the product.

      That’s definitely one model for operating a public service, but its far from the only one.