I’ve listened to Bill for decades. He’s a good guy to get advice from. He’s also a fucking but bag sometimes. But who isn’t a little nuts.
Everyone says that, not just Burr
Stop blaming each other. The ones we should be blaming are the mega wealthy.
No war but class war
Exactly, all the major social conflicts are fueled by a few very powerful people to distract us from going after them.
“Bill Burr blurts ‘Blame Billionaires!’”
Nice alliteration.
Bill is a class act. One of the best living comedians.
I enjoy his talk show appearances, but his stand up is needlessly aggressive.
He’s from the Boston area. We are all needlessly aggressive.
Did you see the clips of him roasting the Philadelphia crowd for booing the openers for whatever show that was?
Sometimes a little aggression works.
“Your greatest hero [Rocky] is a fictional character!”
I haven’t seen them, but I certainly agree aggression can be funny, when used appropriately.
His most recent one was making fun of that very fact about himself. I think its safe to say hes aware.
Even that, taken at face value, was aggressive towards his wife. I’m already familiar with his angry on stage persona, but the person I was watching it with (first time viewer) left the room.
In an interview situation he is much less angry, but also sharper and funnier.
I dont think you can say how his wife feels about it, thats sort of up to her.
It’s been great to see him explore why he’s been that way. We need more men his age publicly discussing working through their trauma.
Some idiots on the right think bill bur is in the middle, how many times does he have to say fuck trump for those morons to understand. He deff not a establishment dem but he is deff a progressive
And he did marry a black woman so he is far from conservative.
He just wanted his kids to be visible in the snow.
Edit: this is Bill Burr’s own joke lol.
He might appear to be in the middle, because he also goes after Democrats. And while they might not be nearly as bad as the party of American fascists, Democrats are very far from being perfect. They have at most a handful of decent high profile people. Bill Burr is just reasonable and calls out assholes, no matter their affiliation.
I think they say that because he portrays himself angrily, and people on the right can really relate to that.
Bill is a real American. I like that he’s so anti-racist.
He married a black woman. You should hear his stand up talking about going to her place in Harlem. lol
As someone who listens to his podcast regularly, he’s a borderline socialist at this point, but he has blinders on when it comes to “both sides” bullshit.
It’s probably because he doesn’t want to alienate half of his audience, which I get. But it’s super frustrating to hear because he’s right there.
If they ask Bill, which the media does, he’ll tell you, “Why the fuck are you asking me?” He knows his political views are and should be meaningless. He’s a comedian. The news media is responsible for the mess we’re in, stop asking comedians what they think and stop white washing fascism.
I don’t really understand this sentiment. No one is asking him to run for office. He’s an American citizen and he has a huge platform to speak on. Of course his political views have merit. You don’t have to be a political science major to talk politics. This comment section is proof of that. Obviously he is only one person and no one should be informing theirselves soley in what he has to say, but like anyone else his words aren’t meaningless.
It’s his sentiment, not mine.
Lol great clip. I totally get what’s he’s saying. We don’t necessarily need to ask him for his views, but he has 100% offered them himself.
not all anti-trump people are progressive. plenty of center and right-leaning folks say fuck trump. not enough, but plenty.
also it’s not even progressive to say “don’t blame immigrants”. that’s just basic humanity and not letting republican fear mongering drive you rabid.
Its not the immigrants that are the problem, its the system propped up on abusing groups that have less rights than others. Dressing it up as a humanitarian concern is a distraction from the real problem. The focus should be on companies who abuse employees.
In terms of right and left he’s pretty much the center. American “centrists” are actually right wingers in other countries. Heck, even the Dems who consider themselves leftists are actually on the right.
True. What most Americans consider progressive is even center in most European countries. Like, universal public healthcare might be progressive for Americans, but even center-right parties in the EU aren’t against that
Because Bill says enough crap that aligns with right wing views that they skip the rest.
And there’s so many selectively edited clips of him out there. He actually brings that up in OP’s clip.
Bill Burr is great and I don’t think I’ve ever met a guy who didn’t like him. Good politics too, and says them like a normal fucking person who can make a case without being annoying.
Some of the weirdo ass lemmy computer janitors in this thread seem to dislike him. Which means he’s probably on the right side.
The rest of this thread is bonkers. I have no idea what’s happening
unhinged people can’t tolerate non-idealistic perspectives. Bill isn’t a idealist, he’s a pragmatic realist kind of guy.
idealists tend to believe that any reference to a reality outside of their ideal utopia in their heads is a form of hate-speech against them.
Now I know what’s happening
I mean, his “stop being a pussy, stupid millennials” schtick is pretty annoying. We get it, you drank from a garden hose and came home when the streetlights turned on. You’re so cool
Wait, I’m a millennial and also drank from a garden hose and came home when the streetlights turned on… What does that mean for me?
Guess that makes you Superhero
He’s gotten better about that, and usually realizes halfway through a rant when he’s doing it, and shifts it to making fun of himself for being a cliche
At this point, millennials mention the garden hose shit more than gen x ever did, and are more annoying about it. Source: am millennial, have seen people make these same exact tired comments for over a decade now
I’m gen x and I’d never heard the garden hose comment until just now. I never drank from a garden hose … we just used the dog’s bowl.
I blame billionaires for supporting the mass import of immigrants to line their own pockets at everyone’s expense.
Ah yes the rich globalists want to import brown people. We should implement socialism for the white. Maybe we could call it zinasme or something. Sozial-nazionalisme.
Billionaires want you to hate immigrants and support criminalization of migration. That’s what allows cheap labor, the threat of legal repercussion if they dare to speak up, and the racist stigma.
Beside, you’re from a first world country, they gave you crumbles from colonisation, but that’s still why you’re richer than some guy from africa. How dare you not give him the same opportunity as you?
Let people live where they want to live, idiot
it’s not at our expense. illegal immigrants do the jobs we don’t want to do anyway, and they contribute more to the economy than they take from it.
blame the billionaires for using 24 hour news and social media to misdirect people’s anger with bigotry and fear mongering.
they contribute more to the economy than they take from it
They even help prop up Social Security, since they pay into it but can’t ever collect on it.
jobs we don’t want to do anyway
How about they pay decently for those jobs and provide decent working conditions and you’ll have plenty of people who would want to do those jobs.
But no, we must take advantage of illegal immigrants because “nobody wants to do those jobs”.
how much money would it take for you to pick strawberries all day?
It took me 8,5€ per hour. You picked a perfect example since that’s something I’ve actually done
good for you. americans ain’t like that.
Lmao I’m sure all those struggling people unable to find decent work would turn down a job if it paid decent and working conditions were adequate. Fucking lazy poor people…
yes, exactly. and then what do those poor lazy people do when prices on all those goods rise because of the increased labor costs? the exact same situation all over again.
This regime whore picking the pleb side haha
good for him, fuck these geriatric nepo baby pedos.
It’s weird, I don’t know if Bill Burr has ever made jokes that took it too far. Definitely a couple bad takes, tho. Reason it is weird is because I have an inherent distrust of Bill Burr, just can’t place why.
Maybe because he’s been on Rogan’s podcast? To be fair he’s one of the few to have called him out.
“I’m not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree” 👏
My distrust comes from the ever-present possibility that his public persona is an act, because it’s Hollywood. Outside of that, the dude has always come off genuine and comes from a place of good faith. I would absolutely consider him more an ally than enemy.
everyone’s public persona is an act.
including your own.
Yes but a wealthy celebrity has significantly more money and power to keep that act up, making it more effective.
The only disadvantage they have is higher levels of scrutiny, but again, money and a team of people fixes that pretty quick.
He hosts weekly podcasts where it’s usually just him with the occasional guest or his wife. He would have to be very committed to the act to keep it up.
The only thing I can remember is that he had some bad takes about cancel culture. It was pretty minor and he’s been great otherwise.
There’s no such thing as cancel culture, it’s celebrities being angry that they have repercussions for being shitty people. I think his frustration was with the fact that you can make one mistake and or have one quote taken out of context and people will define you based on that.
He said "You can’t take one incident or one quote and say, ‘That’s who you are.’ It took me 50 years to figure out who I am and I’ve been with me for 50 fucking years. How are you gonna figure out who I am in a joke?”
This isn’t a quote in support of Dave Chappelle of Roseanne Barr who have made careers of being assholes.
you just big mad he sided with peasants when they supported whoever killed the Unitedhealth parasite.
Which side is the peasants? Is it the one with the Mangione Enterprise heir with an ivy league education?
Idk if Atlas is shrugging but I sure am.
I’m sorry, did you just flex Ayn Rand in that argument? That is some permafrost-level irony.
Its not my fault the hail corporate philosopher takes are aligning with your cult of personality ideology.
Rebutting with a logical fallacy isn’t exactly helping your position, friendo. 🤦🏼♂️ That tracks, though.
Skill issue if you couldn’t parse it.
lol this is legitimately cope
Did you write for the uncle in Napoleon Dynamite, or is that just how you do? You’ve got your wolf suit on, struttin’, and all that alpha vision of the real Truth®. Yeah. I see you, we all do.
Well, except you, but that’s the whole story right there, innit?
Oh so you’re just a total piece of shit damn
Is it the one with the Mangione Enterprise heir with an ivy league education?
Yes, it is. Because he gave up all of that to take a stand.
What’s the other side, though?
Fuck if I know. The luigi crowd will do anything to make it look like theres some coordinated opposition making them the victims.
And fuck if you don’t? Fucking LOOK. What does the Luigi crowd stand for? What’s the CEO stand for? Profits over health? Whose health? Do you think? Or just follow your McDonald’s ass fucking gut feeling?
“Luigi crowd?”
Please, make some fucking sense of it for me so you don’t make me think you’re a moron with no thoughts. I don’t want to, you’ve got to have some fucking basis for this shit, right?
Luigi crowd stands for murdering people you don’t personally like and getting away with it.
The CEO stood for exactly what the CEO who immediately replaced him stands for.
Nothing changed because of Luigi. He’s basically an Anarcho Capitalist who doesnt believe in democracy and instead thinks we all need to police our neighbors with deadly force. Here’s an idea, if you have to kill somebody over the state of healthcare then next time kill the people getting in the way of you having free healthcare: Republican Senators.
He may as well have killed a McDonalds Employee in protest of their corporate office. In fact, his cult almost tried to kill an actual innocent McDonalds employee, too.
Actually, quite a lot changed with Luigi, but as that’s been discussed on Lemmy all over the place, forward and backward, ad nauseam, we’ll skip it here.
What I’m finding more fascinating is you deriding ‘murdering people you don’t like’ in the first paragraph, and in the third paragraph recommend killing Republican Senators.
You’re generalizing the Luigi crowd how you see fit. The problem is the fact that corpos pay congressmen to increase profit margins, and CEOs are beholden to boards of directors within that. The problem is that both republicans and democratic senators and representatives are so easy to corrupt through citizens united and super pacs. The problem is that healthcare in America is overpriced and shitty.
The Luigi crowd isn’t the few people focused on their anger, they’re just the loudest. The Luigi crowd, to me, is the bill burr’s that see that Nestle CEO’s that want to hoard and sell rain DO deserve to be shot, or the system needs to change. I don’t pretend to know how, but when money is considered free speech, we end up here.
What about the Epstein list, and the clear evidence of Trump being closely associated with Epstein and Ghislaine?
I don’t think we need to police our neighbors, but when the police commit crimes, what’s the answer? When the authority fucks around, how can they find out? Corpos like united healthcare deny care to people based on their bottom line, and dole out huge amounts profits to the select few at the top that have no relation whatsoever to the research. Their job is to increase profits. That’s the job. And to follow regulations set by congressmen that they tip in their favor with legal bribes.
He didn’t make a difference through the immediate effects of his action, but he republicized the wrongness of the American healthcare system to a new generation, and the fact that the other side is the one that is creating and adjusting new, more fucked up regulations. He became a symbol to a hell of a lot more than his cult you minimize him to.
Lmfao this idiot thinks democrats want “free” healthcare. Good lord you are stupid
Atlas shrugged off idiots trying to mooch off technological gain that made VALUE that was worth money. The fuck are you shrugging off?
told ya folks, big mad 🐸
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He looks like an average dude?
Yeah, kinda. But like, he kinda looks like he’d start complaining about pronouns unprompted in a Walmart at 3pm.
He looks lile Billy Corgan, if Billy had red hair and knew how to smile
My first thought was the whole ‘broken clock right twice per day’ spiel, but then I had the same epiphany.
Yeah that guy’s a piece of shit --> wait, he’s a piece of shit right? --> …I can’t remember why I think he’s a piece of shit… am I confusing him with someone else??
Seeing your post, there’s some Mandela shit going on here.
Burr is great. Especially post mushroom therapy.
I initially clicked through to say exactly this. I’d gotten a kick outta his early stuff, but when Chapelle went off the rails, I took a hard look at my standards for comedy.
I hadn’t seen a lot of his stuff leaving up to and including the animated series, but I happened across that show at Red Rocks, and I immediately had a new respect for him. In truth, I saw a lot of myself in his challenges with anger, compassion, attention span, polarized thinking, etc., and had been testing out microdosing for about a year by then. I felt that I was seeing him for the first time, the way it resonated with me, personally.
Beyond all that, he’s come a crazy long way from the undeniable and admitted asshole he was ten years ago. Mushrooms, or no. ✊🏼
he literally calls himself a piece of shit. thats where you got it from. but the reality afaik hes actually a decent human being.
do your own DD… i did not even like the guy until he started shilling peasant PR lol