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    Holy shit there’s a lot of angry fat American people in the comments.

    No-one is mocking them being fat. We’re mocking America for having such a shit culture and food regulation that lots of people end up with this problem.

    It’s not funny to mock a specific hungry kid, but you can make jokes about famine.

    You shouldn’t trigger someone’s personal traumas of rape, but comedians can joke about sexual assault.

    I think blurring their faces would’ve made this less a joke and more shaming. So idk what the issue is.

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        I mean, I apologise if it came off like that. I didn’t exclude the chance of angry fat non-American people though, but that’s kinda on you (and the other comments that may actually joke about fat people, not just you) , since I think we’re making fun of America, not obesity.

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    As a fat person, 300lb+ lbs, i think its fine to call us out and make fun of us. Mostly we either dont give a shit and will do what we want, or might just be on the verge of change and 1 more person calling us out could jumpdrive our selfrespct enough in order to make a difference.

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      I appreciate that. Personally, the photo kicks my sense of empathy into overdrive instead.

      I don’t see two targets of ridicule. I see two cases of metabolic syndrome,with type II and heart attacks waiting to destroy their bodies, and over 6000 calories of raw sugar in tow on wheels, because they’re too weak to carry their snack around. And they likely got there from self-medicating with food for what’s likely trauma, depression, and/or other mental illness. They need a rescue party.

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    Nobody wants to be in that shape, nor to be photographed and mocked online like this.

    My heart goes out to those folks, and I sincerely hope they can find the help they need to turn around their unhealthy lifestyles.

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      Speaking as a disgusting fat bastard myself, feel free to criticise and mock me as much as you want.

      Maybe it’ll finally motivate me to do something about it.

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        Right, that’ll work.

        You’ll probably make more progress when you learn to accept and respect yourself. Losing a lot of weight is extraordinarily difficult and it’ll take as long or longer than the amount of time it took to put it on. You’ll have regressions and make mistakes. Your key will be neck breakingly slow but constant progress and being gentle on yourself, plus being surrounded by supportive people. I’m sorry you feel that you’re disgusting but I don’t.

        My mom lost 70 pounds and then gained back 20 in the last 5 years. That’s less than a pound per month, a 100 calorie deficit. She still eats a lot but I think that’s what makes her successful. She has a long way to go but I never forget to tell her she’s kicking ass because she is. You’d tell her that too. Now tell yourself.

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          Everyone is different. For me, mockery was much more motivating. While it was not a good place, browsing r/FatPeopleHate was what got me to finally get in shape

          Lost it a lot faster than it took to get it, for the record

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        Self hate is approximately as good a motivator as ridicule, ie a negative one.

        Depression or whatever the damage is isn’t solved with more trauma.

        To start climbing out of your hole your first step is forgiving yourself for not being perfect.

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        These are severely ill people who will die prematurely even if they get the help that they need. Do you walk up to cancer patients and go: “oh you are so beautiful just the way you are, never change”?

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            That’s the thing though. We do care for suicidal people in this society. We should care even if they’re killing themselves slowly. It’s not a choice they’re making. It’s literally mental illness.

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        Lol no. There’s a point of derision. You can’t act like something this absurd is a functional reality in their head. At some point we have to say “stop it” and that point was way before it got to using handcarts for diabetes juice.

        Edit: and that’s before considering that their poor choices lead to higher insurance rates for people with self control.

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          Telling an obese person to “stop it” is like telling a depressed person to stop being depressed, it totally ignores the underlying reasons.

          I’ve struggled weight wise my entire life, been up and down 50 kilos over a decade, since actually getting an ADHD diagnosis and therapy it’s trending downwards to where I want it to be.

          I strongly believe from my own experiences (and others I know) there’s a strong addiction component to obesity, would you describe smokers as having poor self control? There’s a massive mental health (and genetic for that matter) component to obesity that’s frankly overlooked, often can be a trauma response, maladaptive coping mechanism or as I said, addiction.

          Have you ever talked to an obese person? My weight is/was a huge source of my self negativity, not a single person I know actually likes being obese, don’t want to be that way, that cycle of self loathing is a spiral and it’s really hard to break that, especially when society sees fit to attribute the entire condition to some sort of moral failing that makes it even harder for people to want to ask for help, let alone receive it.

          I’m lucky, I’ve always been pretty active so judicious food logging + exercise works for me (and has in the past), others not so much. GLP-1 Agonists are an absolute godsend for people who really struggle from what I’ve been told (my ADHD meds kill appetite too, totally won’t discount their contribution) they totally kill any food noise, actually helps keep them satiated, and importantly, kills their food stress response. Literally life changing, enabling them to actually get to a place where they can sustain it.

          All of this is just the mental health components, there’s other barriers in some places, food deserts are absolutely a thing and lack of walkable neighbourhoods does not help either.

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            I agree that there is a mental health component there. I have ADHD as well and used to smoke. But I never flung it in the face of society by smoking 3 cigarettes at once in public as a “fuck you”. There’s a limit to that excuse. I know how ADHD works and it doesn’t discount some amount of shame. This? This is shameful. ADHD people aren’t completely unaware, I know it’s hard, but it’s also not a complete excuse to be this obtuse.

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            Insurance works as a risk pool. If you have an increased number of high cost members in the pool, such as those prone to all the conditions long known to be associated with morbid obesity, it raises the cost outlays for the pool, and thus by association the premiums demanded to cover said costs.

            Money in must equal money out plus administrative costs, spend more out, need more in, from everyone, or should we selectively charge the hight cost members more?

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        Whether you criticize or pity them, you’re disrespecting their autonomy.

        Who cares?

        No I’m serious, why the fuck should I care about their autonomy when they’ve proven that they’re irresponsible with it? Should I be careful complaining about used heroin needles in the street because it might ‘disrespect the heroin addicts autonomy’?

        Fuck your entire argument, it’s stupid.

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      It’s a depth-charge sized drink made by the 7-11 convenience store chain in the US. The biggest Big Gulp is the 128oz (or 3.5 liters).

      It’s just what you need if you’re planning to hike through Death Valley or walk on the surface of the Sun.

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        I knew a guy who rigged one up with a cooling system, he only needed to get new water every couple days. I aspire for such laziness. Mind you I am the type of lazy that caused me to go into severe pain yesterday because I hadn’t eaten more than one meal a day at most for like a week, I don’t have an eating disorder I am just very good at procrastinating.

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          I saw a video of some kid hooking up a cup with a tube that fed a back-pack to load up on some special mountain dew from 7-11…

          It was for internet clout surely but damn…

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            In his defense some of the mountain dew flavors are weirdly rare since quite a few of them even if liked are either limited run or just not common. Finding the cherry flavor or Baja blast is relatively easy but anything else is hard. I say all of this to note that I knew a guy in highschool circa 2015 who did this with a camel pack that had a broken mouth piece.

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      An obscenely large soda from 7-eleven. The cups in the image aren’t Big Gulps technically, but they are very large drink containers, and OP is using the term Big Gulp loosely

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        the fact that whatever the fuck is in the picture looks nothing like a drink would look in a normal country, you smug dick.

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          Normally it’s just a large plastic cup but I think these are the reusable ones they sell some places? They don’t really look the right size or design but I’m not an expert.

          So the gas station chain sells you these bottles and then then you can also pay for a refill later as much as you want.

          I’ve never seen the point and I’m straight up addicted to caffeine, the regular cups used to be cheap.

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      A camelback is cheaper, less pathetic, and much more likely to have water in it than coke. This isn’t normal or ok for humanity.

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        Camelbacks taste funny, and I suspect they leech into the water. (Thus why they taste funny)

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          Oh I’m sure they leech microplastics… But so do megagulps. The only difference is that camelbacks are almost entirely used for water (and probably some college kids alcoholic beverages) the difference is that these massive jugs usually contain soda, which covers up the plastic taste, and most are acidic, so they also contribute to the deterioration of the plastics in the container on top of that.

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            I have one of thos jugs I use exclusively for water when im working outside. They’re great. Most of my family does the same thing. The type of container you drink out of doesn’t mean anything.

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          Get some denture tablets, unflavoured or a flavour you don’t mind, put two in the camel back and fill it up. Let it sit for a day and rinse out. Repeat a few times if needed. Helps strip a lot of the residue manufacturing solvents out. It won’t be perfect but it will be a lot better.

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    wow these replies are landmines so i will just be confused about how you even get a picture from that angle. the place doesn’t look urban or like it would have any high-rises, and the USA (assuming this is it) also doesn’t really do tall parking garages. and it very much looks like the photo was taken from outside.

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      I’ve said for years that knife party needs to use that diabetes sound clip to make a dope ass song.