• caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
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    15 days ago

    What makes you think there will be one, if there hasn’t been one yet? Asking as a discouraged person.

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      15 days ago

      Wait, is the civil war the better outcome here? I mean, you granted Trump control of all branches of the government and elected him president twice. How do you guys envision that playing out?

      Ugh. Every time a US politics post gets through my blocklist I’m baffled at the surreal narratives in there. Americans are so weird.

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        14 days ago

        I am not American and I am also disappointed some new horror gets through my blocklist. It affects all of us though.
        I don’t think civil war is the better outcome, I just think the better outcomes seem to have been handily sidestepped.

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          14 days ago

          … so weird.

          I genuinely believe history will struggle to explain American decay accurately, because who would ever stand in front of a classroom with a straight face to explain Americans were too lazy to not elect a fascist president twice into full control of the state’s apparatus while actively fantasizing about a civil war to oppose him.

          Like, you’d need to explain a century of main character syndrome fed by mass media and then degraded by social media, and even then it’d be a struggle. If anybody survives it’s all going to be rationalizations about Citizens United and whatnot and history will do its best to forget how it all actually went down.

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            14 days ago

            Or someone that’s actually read some history will find the inevitable decline of liberalism very, very familiar, and agree that a fascist nation having a civil war instead of invading their neighbors is the best outcome once the old order collapsed under the weight of its hubris.

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              14 days ago

              Oh, man, care to point me to all that history I haven’t heard of? Would love to read more about all the liberal regimes that collapsed into fascism democratically but were liberated by a civil war and everything was just fine afterwards. Bonus points if it’s either pre- or post- cold war and there isn’t a bloc system where they can act as a proxy for a remote superpower. Would have been so useful to know when our country descended into decades of fascism by the exact opposite method. We didn’t know we were doing it wrong.

              But hey, at least I can recognize that as accelerationist nonsense. The weird part is when normie Americans seem to have the same set of assumptions out of nowhere. That’s where the real weirdness happens.

              Anyway, I’ve had enough yankee for a day. I’m out. You guys enjoy your barbecue or civil war or however you decide to spend the weekend.

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                14 days ago

                Not the brightest bulb, huh? That’s okay, I’m sure you’re great at emotional intelligence or whatever else soothes the ego.