I’ll admit, when I first started torrent I was not really familiar with how it worked and how important seeding was. I would just use magnet links without configuration to save the torrent and seed after completion. Well… I have finally, got myself back to 1.00 after a couple months and working to try to always seed double what I get for each torrent.

Often times I was one of the few random seeders available for some of these torrents. Friendly reminder to give back because you never know when you’re one of the rare cases that can complete someones long lost file download!

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    When I am seeding a torrent with less than 5 seeders I just let it go forever. So far I have about 15 of those. Eventually I’ll have to drop them… but I’ll be there hero until then.

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      Keep the files in a dedicated torrents folder then make symlinks to where you actually want them?

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    Private trackers enforce ratios, and good private trackers reward long-term seeding, which is part of why I like private trackers.

    I’m very proud of my CG account that turns seventeen next month.

    EDIT: No I don’t have invites, before anyone asks.

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      I have yet to get a positive ratio on anything I’ve ever downloaded from a private tracker. Always have to sit and wait to accumulate points in their seeding time system… It’s annoying because otherwise I’d be seeding a lot more shit for them.

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        It’s definitely not easy, especially if you don’t have a seedbox.

        I have gotten a good amount of upload, but that’s on torrents I have been seeding for literally years at a time.

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        The trick is to use autodl-irssi or autobrr to download the torrent the second it gets added to the tracker. As long as you have a very fast internet connection, you will usually be over 1:1 before it finishes downloading.

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          For that to work I’d have to know what I’m looking for in advance… I don’t really have enough media exposure for that. I usually find out about shows/movies I might be interested in after they’ve been out for months.

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            You’re basically never going to hit a positive ratio if you do things that way. Other people are using RSS feeds to know when something becomes available, then grabbing it on a seedbox. They get the entire thing instantly, then they start seeding to everyone else.

            It is possible (but slow) to get a positive ratio if you don’t have a seedbox, as long as you grab new things instantly. But, while it will take maybe 20 minutes to download, it will often take days of continuously seeding to hit 1.0.

            If your goal is to hit a positive ratio, either get a seedbox or grab things immediately via a feed. If you’re grabbing using a feed, you could theoretically grab popular shows even if you’re not interested in them. But, it’s a bit of a waste of bandwidth to grab something and seed it if you never intend to look at it. Your best bet, if you’re trying not to be wasteful, is figure out a show you actually want to watch that’s still releasing new episodes. Grab new episodes immediately and seed them.

            Even if it’s a show where you’re still on season 1 and currently season 4 is airing, as long as you’ll eventually get to season 4, you’re not wasting bandwidth that way.

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              Yeah, I’m not arguing with you, it’s just a pain in the ass to deal with. I don’t mind seeding the shit I download at all but it shouldn’t be a fucking competition when it’s a requirement to download stuff. Obviously they’re not hurting for seeders. IMO a better metric would be having a required seeding time (which they do anyway) and let you download as much as you want as long as you seed it long enough. Like you said I’ll never hit a positive ratio, even doing things your way I doubt I’d find enough shit I wanted to build up a big ratio. I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing and rely mainly on public trackers and use the private ones only when I can’t find what I’m looking for. I actually have quite a high ratio on both the private trackers I use just from seeding stuff for a long time and trading points in so I can download stuff, it just doesn’t help my ratio.

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                I actually have quite a high ratio on both the private trackers I use just from seeding stuff for a long time and trading points in so I can download stuff, it just doesn’t help my ratio.

                I think this is a good way to use private trackers. Most will have occasional events from time-to-time as well. If you keep seeding everything you get from freeleech, eventually you’ll hit a point where your seeding benefits outpace the amount you care to download and you can just download whatever and not care anymore forever. One of mine I hit that point about six years ago and I just totally take it for granted that I can snatch anything I’m curious about. I do not understand the need to care about your ratio beyond being enough to download things you want without losing your userclass perks.

                I actually like private tracker forums a lot, they are communities that no organization will ever care to astroturf and that are free of bot posts. You’re just talking with people, and as you grow to recognize some of the regulars it feels like a community. Anyway, it’s weird how normal most people on those forums are about this stuff considering how if you look at r/trackers you might get the impression that the purpose of these websites is for the users to move up a ladder like it’s a game. (Also the consensus on that subreddit is never use a tracker’s forums under any circumstances ever because you will 100% be banned for no reason because the mods don’t have lives and…what?)

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                  Also the consensus on that subreddit is never use a tracker’s forums under any circumstances ever because you will 100% be banned for no reason because the mods don’t have lives and…what?

                  Presumably half the subreddit were banned from the official forums for treating it like ranked competitive piracy

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                Part of the problem is that people who hit some massive share ratio are doing it at the expense of people who are simply trying to hit 1.0.

                My guess is that most of the people with really high ratios aren’t even aware of how much they’re sharing. They just set the things to seed and then forget them. Some people do treat it like a competition, but for many it isn’t. Most are probably just trying to be nice and make sure that something stays available.

                What’s really needed is some seeding priority thing so that someone who is trying to prove they’re not a leech is given top priority to seed things, and someone who has already established their credentials is put at the back of the queue.

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                  I fail to see the problem with not being able to seed to 1:1. Most sites provide points for seeding over time which can either be used to increase upload or buy free leech tokens (which allow you to download anyway). It should be more than enough to download what you want once you have a large enough seeding size.

                  The BitTorrent protocol prioritizes fast seeds to achieve the best possible transfer speed. It’s goal is not for everyone to be seeding to the same ratio.

                  Also the best way to help the network is to keep content available. For this purpose the speed of it’s seeds is not as important.

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      EDIT: No I don’t have invites, before anyone asks.

      Yeah, this is also a problem though. I’d love to be on a private tracker as I was in the past, but once you’re out it’s just too much of a hassle to get back in.

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        Buying your way into TL via seedbox promo is a solid way to get started. This won’t help for other sites but TL is miles better than all other public sites still available.

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    I miss eMule though. I always loved to share some rare exotic stuff and see someone decided they want that and I provided it. It’s not just about bandwidth, though I had pretty big numbers there. Torrents just don’t hit the same.

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        Problem is how most networks are configured today that prevent HighID on eMule, severely crippling it. It used to be annoying to have LowID in the past and reconnecting usually fixes it, now it’s a given and you can’t get out of it. It’s so hard to get uploads going and it makes me sad :(

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          The problem with HighID/LowID on eMule is the same on bittorrent or any other p2p, you need someone with port forwarding to upload/download content. In my case I am out of cg-nat and sharing 24/7.

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            It’s not. Bittorrent uses newer methods to connect that work with current network configurations where eMule devs stubbornly refused because it would create some overhead like we’re still stuck on 56k or ISDN era and never improved it.

            Apparently there is a way using VPN with P2P, but I’m not gonna pay for it just to run eMule…

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              Nope, it is the same. Bittorrent have a lot more users than eMule and then you have more possibilities to find a peer with ports forwarded. 2 peers Without port forwarded can not share content.

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      I mean have you really only downloaded less than 500gb or is almost everything free seed and doesn’t count on your download stats.

      Eitherway nice seeding, good job

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    That’s the spirit!
    My rule of thumb has always been to share to ratio 1.1. Side thought: Maybe there’s a funny correlation between birthrates needing to be 2.1 for a stable population, the extra .1 to make up for deaths, and well, the 2 is because it takes two to make a baby.

    Anyway, since we're all sharing, these are my stats from 41 days ago when I switched to Nobara.

     
    (Gigabit internet is the biggest luxury I allow myself to splurge on.)

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        I did go out of my way to check creation date and modified date on those folders to try and assess whether I had copied the statistics over from my distrohop. Might’ve been old stats plus new, I’m not too sure. I should really start using cp -a instead of just drag’n’drop in dolphin…

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            It’s just that the original timestamps are lost that way. With cp -a I would’ve kept the original “created on” date. My memory is so shot I can barely remember what I did last week, let alone 42 days ago, whether I copied over those stats or not…