• Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Calling the military “defense” has always been doublespeak. Its literally the opposite of what they do. Department of war is the correct term.

    Obviously this administration are all monsters, and they’re changing the name because they think they think it sounds intimidating. But the name change is the one good thing this administration has done, clearly in error.

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      Department of war is the correct term.

      I’m reminded of when Google took the “Don’t Be Evil” motto off their homepage.

      Yeah, it was corporate bullshit. Yeah, they’ve been up to no good for a while. But when you start changing out the “We’re just here to do a good job” curtains for the “They’re red so the bloodstains are less visible” ones, it can’t help but make you a little nervous.

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      DoD uses to be called DoW, but was changed to give a better image of the country. Reverting back to DoW under this administration, is not the good sign people think it is.

      Also, that joke Pete Hegseth can’t even do a proper pull up, let alone a chin up. Pathetic.

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      I was thinking maybe the American public will start to question why we are spending so much on war. It is an insane budget and the doublespeak of it being for defense helped selling the idea to the public. Maybe he accidentally did something will will help reign in our over spending on war…

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        I was thinking maybe the American public will start to question why we are spending so much on war.

        To Keep Us Safe! To Defeat The Foreign Evil! To Bring Godlessness Back To Our Broken World!

        It is an insane budget

        I would be more comfortable with the US government taking its $1.4T national security budget and throwing it in a big burn pit than I am with our current policy. I’m less concerned with the volume of money than in what it is being spent on.

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        I hate that my Q family will believe exactly this: that he did it with the goal of waking people up.

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          I can see him stumble into some progressive policies…He will kill the economy and have enough of an outrage about cutting Medicaid that enough of his supporters will demand trumpcare. He can also start trump bucks, a monthly payout, so that the economy will still be stimulated. Just pitch it to him as something he can take away from US citizens, if they protest against him. He loves his name on shit, so just name the policies after him and he’ll probably think it’s a good deal.

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    I dunno, it’s a pretty huge deal of a change. It’s literally historic and a major sign of the times. As others have pointed out, I actually enjoy this less duplicitous name. But the context of the change does not bode well.

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      So, yes and no - It was the “Department of War” for most of the country’s existence. Truman changed it in 1947 when doing a massive overhaul of the military and intel parts of the government. Also, just calling “Department of Defense” hasn’t prevented us from getting into a whole mess of wars since then.

      I do agree that it’s a sign of the times in terms of “everything old is new again” and undoing the 20th century, which is the T47/project 2025 stated goal. Sure as shit, we’re making incredible progress towards returning to 1860.

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          Pretty much. We bombed Vietnam and killed a bunch of middle eastern people. Just a bunch of special military operations.

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        Looking into it, the department of war had removed the navy 150 years before. Arguably the DoD was a new department to encompass the department of the navy and the department of the army(the previous department of war) without the implication that the army was in charge being associated with the war department without the navy for so long. The naming, I could argue, is disrespectful to the US Navy of the late 1790s to the late 1940s.

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          Well, the overhaul in 1947 was huge, so it made sense to wrap it all up into something that also, in a post-WWII country, didn’t make it sound like “OK, we have this amazing military apparatus and now we’ve consolidated power, and let’s see where else to point it at…” I get it.

          Personally, I think the “Department of International Violence” sounds more appropriate.

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      Yeah, Department of Defense always reminded me of 1984:

      The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink.

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    So the orange Cheeto, who is trying to get the Noble Peace Prize… just wrote an EO rename things to the Department of War

    God I wish you could turn cognitive dissonance into harnessable energy.

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    Used to have a roommate like this in first year of college. They just stick to this one stupid thing that they think are hyper-masculine (in his case, it was going shooting and owning big guns) and they won’t shut up about it. These fuckers are so annoying. Like we get it bro, you’re a big manly man, now stfu about it. These are usually the most childish people irl.

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    You can point this out to the average person, they’ll still say you’re overreacting.

    Like between this rename, and the “trump was fbi informant” bs, I’m wondering if I’m in a simulation, cuz this is absolutely insane, literally is amateur tv script, unbelievable, if this aired on TV, it would have worse rating than GoT season 8.

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      But its the real world unfortunately, it looks so stupid from the outside but I have lost all my friends to MAGA. Tell me how an evil orange clown controls the narrative for more than half the new coverage. He only supports his cronies and gives the middle finger to anyone who makes less than million dollars annually. This our collective timeline, fucking hell.

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    You know when guys buy big trucks to overcompensate their other shortcomings? Well…

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    did they officially change it from defense? that might be the first honest thing they’ve done in their miserable lives in pursuit of fascistic grandstanding.

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      My first split-second initial reaction was “oh hey they’re being honest for once”, but that was very swiftly followed by “oh fuck what are they teeing up here, they’re not doing this for no reason”

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        Trump has been calling himself a war-time president (the war is unspecified) and saying how nice it would be if he could suspend elections and stay in power due to a war. This has been in the making for a while. If he’s still alive in 3 years, he’ll start a war to stay in power.

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        I think they are just trying to start some wars so Trump can stay in power. Probably in central america? They did just sink a boat / murdered some people there.

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      Right now it’s an alternate name via executive order. Officially changing the name from Department of Defense to Department of War requires an act of Congress.