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    Anybody for “Caprica”? The Battlestar Galactica spin-off?

    It’s the origin story of the cylons. I am not obsessed with it, but I was surprised at how good it was.

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      Where will he go next? This phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare. Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there’s hate, where there’s prejudice, where there’s bigotry. He’s alive. He’s alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He’s alive because, through these things, we keep him alive.

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      3 days ago

      I’ve always been meaning to go through and do a serious watch of that in order.

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      4 days ago

      I don’t know if it was really good or just how I remember it, but the first season of Heroes was great. It was such a shame they fucked it up so bad in the next season.

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        idk, that had already changed the basic nature of how gods work from the book.

        they also tended to go for cheap shots where the author really thought a lot about how to use certain gods.

        for example:

        in the epilogue of the anniversary edition of the book gaimam talks about wanting to incorporate Jesus, but deciding that the scene he wrote for him wasn’t good enough to capture what Jesus was to Americans. but he includes the scene in the post script anyway. it’s a quiet scene where Jesus comes and offers guidance in one of shadows most desperate hours.

        in the show Jesus gets shot trying to cross the Mexican border. which is the absolute lowest hanging fruit when it comes to Jesus. i have made that joke before. I’ve heard others make that joke before. “if Jesus actually was alive right now he’d get shot at the border for being brown and communist”. they clearly just wanted shock value at the lowest intellectual price.

        i don’t hate shows or movies just for adapting a story to a new medium. for example, the new dune movies really aren’t actually capturing the point of the books very well so far. that’s because the dune books are mostly people thinking about what people think it doesn’t adapt into visual mediums well. what villenuve has made is a great movie series regardless. the shining is another great example of that. i had a Stephen King fan try to tell me that Stanley kubrik was a hack for not following the book better. I’d argue that Stanley Kubrik is a better filmmaker that king is an author. the shining is an all time great movie regardless of what it was based on or how much it changed that material. that said, i do hate adaptation that add story elements and change basic rules of reality without putting thought or effort in to making it worthwhile. these two examples are great because kubrik and villenuve are masters of their craft that made these movies with immense amounts of care and effort.

        deviating from the source material isn’t inherently a sin, but making a much worse story when you started with a good one that was already written and loved and using its name to draw people in is worse than just making a bad show. a bad show is easily ignored, but a bad adaptation will put people off of the source material you love. or worse, will supplant the source material in the cultural zeitgeist and you’ll forever have to specify “i mean the book, not that terrible movie they did”. i think tv American gods was… just ok. it completely failed to capture what i liked about the book, but others seem to like it well enough. it has gotten multiple people i know into the book, so i can’t hate it entirely.

        similar to the Witcher show. i hated it. it had nothing of the books in it. it was schlocky and the plot BARELY made sense. they just went off and did entirely their own thing after season 1 and it was shit. but everyone who hasn’t read the books seems to still like it so maybe I’m just a hater.

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            “inspired” isn’t the word. Gaiman pretty shamelessly ripped it off for Sandman. Never even acknowledged it IIRC, despite her asking him for a shoutout because she was so hard up.

            N.B. this is half-remembered gossip - do your own research, don’t just take my word for it

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              The funny thing is that I almost always call Gaiman out for stealing her ideas. I was a fan of hers for years, but never got into the gossip. I hope she’s in a better place now.

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      Oooh, I loved the OA! But I’m just a fan of Brit Marling in general, She’s got some interesting ideas going with everything she does.

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    Firefly, of course.

    On the plus side, what Joss Whedon did to Wash in Serenity made me hate him long before the revelations of what an asshole he is came to light.

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      Syfy had some decent to good mini series.

      In addition to The Lost Room, I really enjoyed Tin Man (Wizard of Oz reimagining) and remember liking Alice (Alice in Wonderland reimagining)

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      Seriously thank you, I remember watching this when it aired and occasionally have wanted to look it up but forgot the name.

      You also reminded me of the uproar when “The Sci-Fi Channel” rebranded to SyFy lol

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      Looooove this show. Only available in DVD quality that I’ve found. Still worth the watch.

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    Let me talk to you about the wire and how it is the perfect series. (Even when it got squirely in season 5)

    The deconstruction of the failure of every institution in the city of Baltimore.

    How good people can get lost in systems. How they can attempt to fight. How the systems inevitably prevail.

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      3 days ago

      Awesome series but niche? It’s an HBO series that’s on pretty much every list of the best series of all time. I’d hardly call that niche.

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      Oh, it’s great. Charlie Brooker (Black Mirror’s creator) called it the best show of all time, with honorable mentions to Deadwood and The Shield (which I didn’t rate much)

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      I’d like to upvote you twice.

      It’s much better than silly Silicon Valley, or the Office.