It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.
Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.
There’s a difference between carpet bombing an entire country (also not defensible) and deliberately removing gay people from your population using the legal system.
Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?
Not lesser, just different. The two countries are very different and you can’t really draw a sensible comparison. Additionally I would point out that Iran has been supplying weapons, money, and intelligence to Hamas and Hezbollah for years. Have Hamas been a good thing for Gaza?
But let’s not forget Yemen. Vastly more people have died in the Yemeni civil war (100s of thousands of civilians) which was started by the houthis, who are an Iranian proxy. They also propped up Bashar al Assad, who used chemical weapons against the Syrian population. They also had a hand in the Sudanese civil war.
So yeah Iran hasn’t directly been involved in genocide, but they’ve been encouraging and funding it for a good while. Not good guys.
Clearly many more. I’m not defending Israel at all. They’re clearly war criminals. However they don’t execute LGBT people in their own country which is the point of the meme. Iran is specifically trying to irradiate LGBTQ people in their own country. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and is incapable of being the “good guy” with the current regime.
They do execute lgbt people though. And children and pregnant women, they’re executing an entire population. A repressive dictatorship is still better than a genocidal one.
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Okay but this is the internet, and im going to do strong readings of everything and also youre supposed to have all the same mental illness and knowledge as me.
It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.
Your last paragraph is really out there, making Israel worse because they may have accidentally killed more gays?
How about we don’t cheer on either? How about we don’t cheer at all? Innocent civilians are dying because a bunch of dictatorial egomaniacs want to feel powerful. I don’t care what their nationality is, people are dying, I’m not cheering anyone.
Fuck the Israeli genocidal government
Fuck the Iranian murderous hateful theocratic dictatorship
Fuck the murderers from Hamas.
Take all of those against a wall and you finally might have a chance at actual peace there.
How is it accidental? They are committing genocide. All of their murders are purposeful. Also, I never said anything about cheering, I said I critically support Iran’s defense against Israeli aggression.
Btw, I agree with you. The ruling class is responsible for all of this, and unless we remove them and make it impossible for a class system to exist, we will perpetually have war.
All I’m saying is that if someone attacks me, intent on my annihilation, you don’t get to say how I fight back.
whos being annihilated? its not the israelis. you are saying its ok to fight back to a bully who threw the first punch without acknowledging it was the bully and his rich friends who started it in the first place.
“Hey I only killed your mother and father and then took over your house but you fight back against me?! DIE!”-- thats israel
my apologies, i am jewish and muslim (mother and father) and this scenario hits a sore spot. I don’t want anyone to have to go through what they are going through. And I thank you for your candidness.
its a never-ending conflict and I feel hopeless about it
It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.
Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.
Two ideas? In this economy?
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There’s a difference between carpet bombing an entire country (also not defensible) and deliberately removing gay people from your population using the legal system.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1600962503-study-iran-tops-list-for-most-dangerous-destination-for-gay-travelers
Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?
Not lesser, just different. The two countries are very different and you can’t really draw a sensible comparison. Additionally I would point out that Iran has been supplying weapons, money, and intelligence to Hamas and Hezbollah for years. Have Hamas been a good thing for Gaza?
But let’s not forget Yemen. Vastly more people have died in the Yemeni civil war (100s of thousands of civilians) which was started by the houthis, who are an Iranian proxy. They also propped up Bashar al Assad, who used chemical weapons against the Syrian population. They also had a hand in the Sudanese civil war.
So yeah Iran hasn’t directly been involved in genocide, but they’ve been encouraging and funding it for a good while. Not good guys.
How many gay people do you think the occupation regime of west Palestine has killed in their genocide?
Clearly many more. I’m not defending Israel at all. They’re clearly war criminals. However they don’t execute LGBT people in their own country which is the point of the meme. Iran is specifically trying to irradiate LGBTQ people in their own country. Iran is a theocratic dictatorship and is incapable of being the “good guy” with the current regime.
They do execute lgbt people though. And children and pregnant women, they’re executing an entire population. A repressive dictatorship is still better than a genocidal one.
https://www.genocidewatch.com/iran
https://www.genocidewatch.com/israel
Hey I’m getting good at spotting these
lmfaooooooooooo https://www.genocidewatch.com/directors-and-advisors
Jesus
they got the guys with hands-on experience huh?
Okay but this is the internet, and im going to do strong readings of everything and also youre supposed to have all the same mental illness and knowledge as me.
Yes, functioning brains can experience cognitive dissonance
It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.
Your last paragraph is really out there, making Israel worse because they may have accidentally killed more gays?
How about we don’t cheer on either? How about we don’t cheer at all? Innocent civilians are dying because a bunch of dictatorial egomaniacs want to feel powerful. I don’t care what their nationality is, people are dying, I’m not cheering anyone.
Fuck the Israeli genocidal government
Fuck the Iranian murderous hateful theocratic dictatorship
Fuck the murderers from Hamas.
Take all of those against a wall and you finally might have a chance at actual peace there.
I’m not cheering, I’m crying for the people
“woops accidentally carpet bombed an entire neighborhood didn’t know there was a gay person there! tee hee!”
maybe if we overthrow their government again for oil money the iranians will learn better, right pheonix?
How is it accidental? They are committing genocide. All of their murders are purposeful. Also, I never said anything about cheering, I said I critically support Iran’s defense against Israeli aggression.
Btw, I agree with you. The ruling class is responsible for all of this, and unless we remove them and make it impossible for a class system to exist, we will perpetually have war.
All I’m saying is that if someone attacks me, intent on my annihilation, you don’t get to say how I fight back.
whos being annihilated? its not the israelis. you are saying its ok to fight back to a bully who threw the first punch without acknowledging it was the bully and his rich friends who started it in the first place.
“Hey I only killed your mother and father and then took over your house but you fight back against me?! DIE!”-- thats israel
I think we’re agreeing but something got lost. I was trying to say that Israel is the bully and it’s ok to fight back against them.
my apologies, i am jewish and muslim (mother and father) and this scenario hits a sore spot. I don’t want anyone to have to go through what they are going through. And I thank you for your candidness.
its a never-ending conflict and I feel hopeless about it