The Bush administration getting away with all their criminal shit paved the way for Trump.

All I want is a party by and for the people.

Sounds like you’d be interested in Marxism then.

True, fascism is the ultimate weapon that capitalists use in reaction to labor movements and class consciousness gaining strength. In fact, I’d argue that given modern advances in communication technology, which allow people to communicate and organize easier than ever, a fascist swing was almost inevitable.

It’s a shame that western world leaders don’t like dialectic materialism. We might have identified the problem before it seized power.

Nah, the news won’t do that. They’re all owned by oligarchs who are responsible for the current state of the world. Corporate news is not on our side.

No one is coming to save us, we have to do it ourselves.

I think we’re agreeing but something got lost. I was trying to say that Israel is the bully and it’s ok to fight back against them.

Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?

It’s not cognitive dissonance if you’re deliberately holding the two ideas. It’s only cognitive dissonance when you try to keep their black and white thinking and can’t find any reconciliation between the two.

How is it accidental? They are committing genocide. All of their murders are purposeful. Also, I never said anything about cheering, I said I critically support Iran’s defense against Israeli aggression.

Btw, I agree with you. The ruling class is responsible for all of this, and unless we remove them and make it impossible for a class system to exist, we will perpetually have war.

All I’m saying is that if someone attacks me, intent on my annihilation, you don’t get to say how I fight back.

It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

Correct answer. The fascists in charge want to do to California what Israel is doing to Gaza.

People usually only remember part of Thomas Jefferson’s quote: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.”

The full thing goes “The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

This is class warfare. We all need to start getting used to the fact that many of us patriots are going to die fighting this fascist machine.

Maybe we should stop pandering to people who are going to hate us no matter what we do. This is open class warfare, we are waaayyyy past PR battles.

Fascists will always ignore protests. The point isn’t that the protests themselves will change things, the point is to organize now so that when violence becomes more widespread, resistance groups already exist and can effectively recruit partisans.

This coup isn’t going to end peacefully. It’s time we start realizing that and preparing ourselves to fight.