• Krono@lemmy.today
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    Anyone suggesting that the US is too sexist to elect a woman president has to explain the election of Claudia Sheinbaum.

    By every metric I can find, Mexico is more misogynistic than the US. You can look at crime statistics on domestic violence, rape, murder; or opinion surveys showing men’s negative attitude toward women – all the stats coming out of Mexico are worse.

    Yet somehow, Mexico overwhelmingly elected a woman (a Jewish woman in an 85% Christian population, too).

    My hypothesis is that policy matters much more than the gender of a candidate. Kamala had absolutely pathetic policy proposals, supporting the status quo of corporate economic domination and a foreign policy soaked in innocent blood. but maybe I’m biased.

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          Thats why Run For Something exists. They train young progressive candidates who win

          They don’t like all this bullshit happening, don’t take AIPAC and their members don’t either.

          Research them/volunteer and let’s get things done. Encourage good people you know who will actually do the job, and actually care for people to apply to be candidates for them.

          Many of their candidates have won 1/2 weeks ago and they are gaining more candidates applying/people in office who win. Search up their Substack: RFS Feel Good for their accomplishments from every month nationwide to make country better. Also Amanda Litman is a good leader to look into.

          If we want better we gotta keep going together!! Get more people you see active as well!!

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        Many imagine they already live in that world.

        Must be pleasant living in that dream.

        Hard to wake up from, to face the horror.

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      I watched a documentary about the last US election where they interviewed people in New York City, there was a black guy who genuinely said that women shouldn’t be presidents because of their periods…

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      Stranger things have happened…

      I got banned from a forum (where I had over 5000 posts, and was largely very well liked) in 2007/8 when I would not back down from suggesting in strong terms that there was no way USA was going to elect Obama because of too much racism. Boy was I wrong.

      (Still… no reason to ban someone for pointing out racism. Eh? Even if in erroneous perception.)

      A token lady puppet may yet still happen.

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      It’s more than likely this is the Dems trying to soft block her early

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      I’d love for AOC to be as she best tries to present herself.

      Would be nice to live in a world where politicians are honest.

  • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    Doesn’t help that the “women candidate” the DNC spit out are neoliberal status quo protectors, their “female candidates” is at best performative from them.

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      Funny how this logic never seems to apply to their male running candidates, who clear elections left and right running on the exact same politics. Or was the status quo perfectly fine 4 years ago, then everyone suddenly changed their minds?

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        But, that logic does apply to their male running candidates too.

        Doesn’t help

        neoliberal status quo protectors

        performative

        All still applies.

        Albeit a mite differently, given the status quo being protected.

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    No it’s not America isn’t ready for a woman president. It’s not ready to have the DNC keep nominating candidates that lack any appeal or enthusiasm.

    Let me preface this rant with I voted for both Hillary and Kamala.

    Hillary was a terrible candidate because she is neither conservative or liberal/progressive. The DNC railroaded Bernie because it was Hillary’s “turn”.

    And with Kamala instead of have an actual primary and getting the best candidate, they just shoe horned her in at the last possible minute and expected everyone to just be ok with it. Not to mention she falls into the same category as Hillary who is neither conservative or progressive so equally disliked on both sides.

    I think the problem ultimately lies within the democrats themselves unwilling to listen to the younger voters who are in dire need of hope and change not the status quo that really isn’t working for them or anybody really. It also doesn’t help that neither party really gives two shits about pissing off the liberal base and it shows.

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      To be fair to Harris, it really wasn’t her fault. At the time Biden stepped down it was far too late to have a proper primary.

      Probably by the design of the donor class.

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      Yep, 41 years old and the Democratic party has nothing for me. I switched from my long standing independent status to democratic just to vote for Bernie in the primaries. I then voted for Hillary, Biden, and Kamala in the general even though I hated all three, why not vote 3rd party? Trump was clearly too much of a danger to our country the day he came down that escalator.

      I’ve recently taken to explaining my recent switch to voting for Democrats like this. Democrats are a cancer, Republicans are a fast moving flesh eating disease. I’d rather have something slow moving that has the potential to be stopped with less damage.

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    I’m so fucking sick of this argument. It’s nothing more than centrist cope; a way of willfully misunderstanding the reason for Hillary Clinton’s and Kamala Harris’ campaign failures.

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      And Harris saw a massive surge of popularity when Biden first stepped down. When the only thing most people knew about her was that she was a black woman, everyone loved her. It was only when she opened her mouth that her popularity tanked hard.

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        She was pretty popular when Tim Kaine Waltz was calling out Republicans forbeing eeird and heinous. But then they reigned that in and decided to focus on how great the economy actually was and started to bring out the most heinous Republicans from 20 years ago for rhe campaign.

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    Regression.

    I feel like 10+ years ago the USA would have been more ready (maybe still not fully, idk).

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    She’s right.

    I thought we were ready for a Black president, and maybe some of the country was. Where I was living at the time, a white man was okay working side by side with a Black man. He’d call him brother, they’d eat at each other’s places, their wives would hang out, their kids would play together… I thought racism was mostly a memory. People were even fine with a Black boss. But when it came to a Black president, they just couldn’t cope.

    If these people can’t see past skin colour, they definitely won’t see past gender. For these people, the First Gentleman would be the “real” president. They would not respect her and, at most, would say she’s just the spokesman for the real president. A lot of people liked Michelle Obama, but not because she’s Michelle Obama, but because she’s Mrs Barack Obama. They don’t care what she thinks or knows, they just expect that she’s speaking for him. And, I think, in 8 years, we saw that she was her own person, but a lot of people couldn’t see it.

    I wonder if she’s interested in running. I think Michelle Obama would poll better than Kamala Harris. I have a feeling she’s done with politics, though, if she were ever really interested.

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      When polled, 12% of men believed they could beat Serena Williams in tennis.

      Because, you know. She’s a girl. Like, how good could she be?

      😐

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        Then again, IIRC, when polled, a sizable percent of men though they could beat up a gorilla, so…

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    Perhaps it’s because the Democrat party keeps trying to force a woman candidate instead of letting it happen naturally. Voters wanted Bernie Sanders, instead the party made Hilary Clinton the nominee. Then they didn’t even have a proper primary in 2024. Biden won the primary because he was the incumbent and nobody really tried to run against him. Then he dropped out, it was too late for a primary, and Harris was just appointed as his replacement.

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    I was pretty pissed off after the last election because it became clear that, as a whole, America hates women.

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    Why is this a headline? The racist, misogynist, bigoted electorate that got us to where we are won’t elect a woman? Maybe they’re just unlikeable.

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    Disclaimer: My comment which follows does not apply to fans and supporters of a candidate. It applies to a difference in how male and female candidates are referred to in the media.

    When our society reaches the stage where TV pundits, political blog writers, etc. stop referring to women candidates by just their first name (almost every time) in the same context that they continue referring to men candidates using their last name, or title + last name, then maybe I’ll believe the US is ready to elect a woman president.

    (edit: I should add to that list, also when even the opposing side will use her last name same as they do with male candidates that they are against, meaning that they may hate her but still have at least that much respect for her as a candidate)

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      Well the woman who made this statement is the wife of a former president. We cannot call her Obama, there already is an “Obama”. The other candidate of relevance was Clinton, another wife of a former president. Current woman politicians of note for some reason get referred to as acronyms, AOC and MTG for example.

      You’re point doesn’t really hold up because news agencies are going to try to avoid obvious confusion.

      Kamala was also reffered to as Harris, but that may have been a result of her regularly pronouncing her first name differently throughout her campaign.

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    Sad indeed. The rest of the world does mostly okay by their elected woman leaders. So…no metric system and no women leaders. Got it. I just hope to all that is holy that the country is not ready for a pedophiliac leader.

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    Feels like we keep speed-running the same lesson and still failing the quiz. the bar for women in politics is set like three floors higher and folks act confused when they don’t clear it.