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    2 days ago

    Huh, history repeating itself. In WWII, the Soviets had a type of land mine that was detonated by playing three specific frequencies over the radio. The Finns figured it out and blasted a polka tune, Säkkijärven polkka, over the radio for four months straight to jam them

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          6 hours ago

          [Bandera] is a Ukrainian nationalist and Russia tries to use this person in their propaganda to say all Ukrainians are Nazis. They always try to scare the Russian people that Ukrainians are, culturally, all the same as Bandera

          GTFO you Russian shill

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        Tell me you didn’t read the article, without telling me you didn’t read the article:

        Any digital noise or random signal would work to jam the navigation system, but Night Watch wanted to use the song because they think it’s funny. “We just send a song…we just make it into binary code, you know, like 010101, and just send it to the Russian navigation system,” Night Watch said. "It’s just kind of a joke.

        [Bandera] is a Ukrainian nationalist and Russia tries to use this person in their propaganda to say all Ukrainians are Nazis. They always try to scare the Russian people that Ukrainians are, culturally, all the same as Bandera."

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        I’m afraid you are misinformed. Stalin and Hitler were Nazi mass murderers and best buddies. Bandera, while not an angel, was imprisoned by Hitler and murdered by Stalin.

        “Bandera was a nazi” was soviet and now ruzzian line, this statement is neither true nor false, but repeating it helps spreading ruzzian propaganda.

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          Eh? The OUN, under Bandera’s leadership, repeatedly and actively sought to alliance Nazi Germany during WWII. They formed militias with the express intent of enacting pogroms against Jewish citizens. Their political agenda was absolutely a fascist one. Bandera collaborated with the Nazis directly near the end of the war to fight the Soviets (though he was between a rock and a hard place here, I admit).

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            so first things first. pogroms and volyn were terrible and seems like Ukraine is working through that.

            the point i’m making here is that the binary “worked with nazis” leads nowhere, and we have to bring things into the historical perspective.

            today we have the luxury of retrospective and know what fascism is and its dangers. which, ironically, doesn’t seem to stop us from sliding into it.

            things were very different and slightly less binary in 1941. after all, the German American Bund (aka First US Nazi party) was dismantled only in December 1941. to make matters worse, germany, france and poland were all researching on the “re-settling” of jews to madagascar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

            what makes a difference for me is that while the main nazis (germans, italians, japanese and soviets) were all about “we are better, let’s enslave the neighbor monkeys”, ukrainian nationalists in that time were about fighting against occupation. polish, soviet, nazi and then again soviet. in that order.

            they lost, and as usual with history, it’s written by the winners but the fact that (the modern nazi) ruzzia appears to have inherited fear of bandera from the (fairly nazi) soviet union, tells me that it’s worth looking at him not only from the ruzzian perspective.

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              I think that’s all valid and well-thought-through, and I perhaps misinterpreted your original message. It seemed to me you were saying that because he was imprisoned for several years by Nazi Germany, he was de facto not a fascist, which would be a very dubious claim.