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The sad part is… I’m living picture 1 right now, with the Microsoft outsourcing my team to be lead from india and reducing manpower from 12 to five and thinking the service will be as good as before… first they wanted the bakers do the work of a pastry chefs and the pastry chefs do the work of the bakers. Now they want the bakers and the pastry chefs to do the butchers job too.
The pizzacake haters are proving this place is similar to reddit.
More like PCC’s rabid fans are making this like reddit. It was reddit where she threatened to sue over parodies of her comics… I don’t think we need toxic shit like PCC over here at lemmy
I don’t even get it, it’s not an offensive comic, the artist has a good sense of topical humor, nothing about it is edgy by today’s standards.
I feel like it’s the exact same thing that happened with figures like Greta Thunberg, where some chud got ahead of it by doing some “cringe reaction” bullshit and since then it’s all people associate with the content because people broadly are easily swayed even by people they wouldn’t normally agree with.
No, really, everyone needs to understand this: your opinions are not your own, the more you think they are, the more likely you’ve been influenced by someone, somewhere. Whenever you see a lot of people hating on something for no real reason, it’s just mindless herd mentality.
I’m sure someone is now going to type up a reply explaining exactly why they hate it… after just now thinking about it for the first time.
Ooh, my opinion is my own here.
I was completely out of the loop with who this creator was when I one day scrolled through /r/comics/top, wasn’t aware of the drama, the circlejerk, you name it.
Her comedy is bottom of the barrel, obvious, decades old takes, that appeal to an era of the internet when comedy was written by those who had the technical know-how to engage with the internet - i.e., unfunny people.
Panel 1: she’s eating airline food, followed by 3 panels of silly “yucky food” faces. Final panel “you expect people to eat this stuff??”.
Panel 1: “honey will you take out the trash” followed by 3 frames of a guy beating up trash. Final frame, pizza cake self insert looking exasperated at the mess.
Panel 1: she’s excitedly buying stuff from the bargain bin, followed by 3 panels of all her purchases falling apart. Final panel - the “bargain” sticker falls off of “bargain bin”. She has exasperated look with hair pointing out.
Panel 1: she’s sleeping awkwardly, followed by three panels of different awkward sleeping poses. Final panel, husband is waking up refreshed, she says “maybe we need to swap pillows”
All of these are technically jokes and/or observations, but just know that if you think these are worth illustrating and sharing, what you consider good comedy is about 15-30 seconds of effort, or the absolute first thing that came to my mind.
People don’t like PC because her comics sit amongst others who exert effort to - at the very least - add a second layer to their comedy. It’s unearned accolades given to the undeserving.
Yah i don’t care, it’s not worth the hate. It feels pretty fucking bourgeoisie to organize around hating someone who just doesn’t live up to what you want in a creator while we have actual democracy falling across the world. Just don’t look at the comics.
If that’s not working, that means she’s living in your head and you need to figure out why.
Bourgeois* is the adjective
Bourgeoisie is a noun
I ain’t organising to hate her, like I said, I don’t care about any of the circlejerk. And I can use meaningless buzz words too if you like. “It’s pretty fucking authoritarian to silence criticism of art. Just don’t look at my comment, I’m living in your head and you need to figure out why”
See, fairly pointless rhetoric.
I mean, I looked at the drama and she was overzealous, that’s about it. That’s not the worst artist.
Oh yeah I’m being educated already about her eeeeeevil misdeeds from others here, and I also know that very artist online has had some drama about permission or IP and if that’s why they’re attacking someone who is ostensibly posting material that is broadly helpful to progressive ideology, then maybe these folks just need to get out of their echo-chambers and bubble worlds and have actual debates with actual bad people.
I rarely even come across them.
Lord forbid there is comics in the comics community.
Where is this though? Here in Europe unemployment rate is at all time lows.
Uh 7% in France isnt low, where is it low ?
7% is low in France. From what i can see online thats the lowest the unemployment rate has been since at least 1990 (thats as far back as i could find reputable numbers)
Next panel: why can no one afford my product!
Millenials are killing another industry!
“Maybe I should be selling avocado toast…”
I think the establishment is actually quite sensitive to unemployment figures because people that are unemployed have time to demonstrate.
Sounds like a nice time for prison populations to increase and get back that labor for cheap.
Almost felt like they were gonna pull that one with the No Kings protests
Oh my Ford the drahmah
Panama is on strike now for factory shutdowns
I think the people who actually want to work might be in the minority?
I guess most people want to contribute to society, or earn money, or both.
Truthfully, I want to work. I just don’t like having to play the game because the game sucks and I’m terrible at it. Let me just do the work.
it’s interesting to hear this!
i have very poor understanding of how many people in society actually want to work, and i’m currently trying to figure this out.
Don’t just stalk the ML subs, post their memes too. Great stuff.
Pizzacake shouldn’t be posted anywhere.
Oh boy! Another pizzacake to downvote!
Blanket downvoting stuff just makes you a useless hater. Downvote the ones that are just saying things that aren’t funny or parody. At least this one is using irony to be a comic, whether or not you care about it or the artist.
I’m new here in the fediverse… why she is hated here? I’m out of the loop on something?
She made a comic on reddit about “if women talked to men the way men talk to women”
A bunch of people commented that they had personally heard women say one or more of those things
Everyone who made those comments was banned and muted
People made posts on other subreddits explaining what happened and were banned and muted from /r/comics even without having posted or commented in it
She and the mods of /r/comics doubled down on future posts
There are a number of Reddit refugees on Lemmy.
Then she threatened a subreddit with legal action for making fun of and parodying her comics. All around a toxic person
I was an artist online for years and eventually quit because of all the drama, and you don’t escape it, if you’re not constantly, aggressively preserving your IP, it WILL get used by others for whatever they want. I can dump boatloads of stories and links to artists who had their work used by everyone from other artists who painted over their art and claimed it, all the way to major corporations just plain stealing designs and characters.
Out of all the “toxic” creators, maybe we should bandwagon against actual shitty people and shitty artists. Ya’ll have Stonetoss’s twitter and socials, why not focus some of this smarmy better-than-thou armchair art-snobbery on an actual toxic nazi? Literally, the same site here broadly, Lemmy, that has on it’s top trending posts, a “punching nazis” meme, does almost NOTHING to actually challenge real threats to our way of life when it’s as easy as a targeted social media campaign. I guess that takes scaaary organizing though.
You’re all manufacturing drama around this.
Or you’re burying your head in the sand. How are people manufacturing drama when it’s the comic creator who’s threatening people with legal action over parodies of her comics?
I have a really hard time believing anyone cares about any of that or even has a source for truth. People are broadly taking cues from everyone else and enjoying hating a thing because it’s fun to hate.
A simple google search would have shown you the receipts lol
I literally do not care if artists have scuffles about permission or whatever, every online artist has some tangled backstory because people are shitty and being online is a fight, that said we have so many ACTUAL fucking EVIL people out there trying to do ACTUAL bad things, it feels like this site is just full of people who can’t access actual fascists and nazis so everyone piles onto the nearest “problematic ally” just because it’s easier to tear someone down than go fight a real fight.
Her comics are utterly devoid of humour, her art style is bland, and she states the blindingly obvious.
Just an incredibly mediocre artist that people are weirdly supportive of.
“A non-offensive, easily-read thing that people broadly like isn’t refined or edgy enough for me personally, so it’s weird that it gets supported by so many people who aren’t me.”
Her comics are painfully unfunny
Then ignore them in your scroll and keep your performative bitching to yourself.
Why dont you ignore my “performative bitching” and keep your performative bitching to yourself. I was answering the question to why she gets hate.
I could say the same about your nasty attitude, people are allowed to not like things.
Sure, but don’t be an ass about it.
And people are allowed to think inflated performance of that dislike is cringe, i suggest the two if you make up fot boring the rest of us with a duel.
A duel fought by robots controlled by core functions of their operating systems-both arch based, controlled only in terminal.
Left turns are eazy, you just need to reset sound and get audio playing-will you use alsa or pulse?
Right turns are a little harder.
I’m not an ambiturner
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You answered your own question
??? because she is a woman? or any other reason? really curious
I’m sure they don’t think of it like that.
Doesn’t stop Lemmy, as a Reddit clone, from proving it’s been selecting for misogynists every time a woman dares to have an opinion on women’s issues.
Sorry bud, but you don’t get to just write everyone’s opinion off like that.
Pizzacake has some absolutely trash takes, and we’re allowed to criticise her for that.
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Why did you delete this?
What are your specific criticisms?
In this particular instance, stating the blindingly obvious. There’s no nuance here, no clever satire, nobody’s views will be changed, just a pointless comic with bland art and a strawman argument.
Nazis and their likes hate it when their idiotic world view is being exposed.
Your kind of rabid fans are what I tried to get away from by leaving reddit. Nope, PCC simps are everywhere it seems
So if you don’t like pizzacake because it’s bland suddenly youre a nazi? Seems legit bro
What on earth are you on about?
Great example of why we shouldn’t just blindly absorb memes. I’m not arguing on the side of the cartoon businessman here, but if the memesmith is talking about the US they’re just plain wrong - unemployment is NOT “sky high” or even regular high. It’s a little above the 50-year low we had a couple years ago, but it’s below historical average. But if you don’t already know that and can’t be bothered to look it up, you’re being led around by the nose. Brawndo is Brawndo, no matter who serves it up or why. Now go ahead and douchevote this like a good little trooper!
And no, I’m not trying to make everything be about America. It’s somewhat implied by the red, white & blue and let’s face it, most posts here are already about America.
Or, and hear me out, she might just be pointing out how the behavior in the first two panels eventually unquestionably leads to the second and third.
Also, while unemployment maybe ‘low’ (and given how those numbers are often drawn from who’s pulling unemployment benefits, and at least in America they kick you off those after a little bit, I also wonder about those statistics, but I digress…) many people who are employed are severely underemployed, which is just as bad in the long run.
Granted, but if the stats are being skewed to make the economy look good, so would stats from other years because the government always wants everything to look good. Same goes for people being underemployed - I’ve been hearing that since at least the 90s. The truth is that unemployment right now are not historically high - everybody just wants to feel like their experience is unprecedentedly horrible. It’s really not. And again, this isn’t taking the side of greedy billionaires, it’s just the truth. We should all be on the side of truth - even if it contradicts a meme.
Where would we be without Pizzacake to state the blindingly obvious?
I guess i just don’t get criticisms like this. They have been rerunning family circle for 50 years and Garfield as it turns out is better without Garfield, but this kind of banality is just too far?
Daily comics are mostly garbage with the occasional, possibly even accidental, brilliance.
Because they don’t want to admit they don’t hate the subject matter, they hate the artist
Although she has done her fair share to take away community good will
“Fair share” is an understatement when they threaten with legal action over parodies. Her fanbase is as toxic as can be
Even Garfield took bigger risks than she does bud.
