I support giving users the choice between AI and non-AI services and products.

But workers protesting the use of AI in their industries are dumb in my opinion.

AI is going to change a lot of industries forever and there is almost nothing workers and unions can do currently to actually stop the progress.

I even had seen some worker unions who are protesting AI use, accept working with companies that use AI and I support them, Because they won’t be taken seriously if they did not do that.

In short: I think workers should protest workers conditions and wages, rather than protesting technology.

AI adaptation is inevitable.

  • Schwim Dandy@lemmy.zipEnglish
    17·
    18 hours ago

    Your argument is “protesting is dumb because it’s going to happen anyway” which, historically, has been a bad position to hold.

    I don’t know the nuances in the situation but if AI were learning on artists work then putting those artists out of business, I can understand why they might want some regulation or restriction in place.

    • Pro@programming.devOPEnglish
      34·
      18 hours ago

      My dude, don’t put words in my mouth.

      I said Protesting AI is dumb , not all protesting is dumb.

      Also, when did protesting AI had actually worked to achieve real improvement?

      • Schwim Dandy@lemmy.zipEnglish
        81·
        18 hours ago

        “I didn’t say protesting was dumb, I said protesting this was dumb”.

        Got it.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
            2·
            14 hours ago

            As you said, it ain’t easy. You wanted an example and I gave one of the major real-world ones. The strike had quite an impact and there’s a lot of different things involved. Your article talks about it. Things went up to the supreme court. Contracts have been changed, amended, and rules put in place. Shows were delayed or even cancelled. But it wasn’t winnig “the war”.

            I’m not sure if some people are under the impression that workers rights or freedom is a one-time thing and then it’s settled and alright… Because it’s really not. This is a constant fight. We’ve been fighting it since the 1700s or so and it won’t ever be over. The moment you stop resisting, someone is going to take your freedom away. And it’s an everlasting struggle, for everyone. And so for the writers. They’ve tried to resist and immediately they’re threatened again.

            It’s the same for everyone. Delivery drivers might have been somewhat okay. Then Amazon got invented and they had to pee into bottles to keep up. I’m not sure if that has been settled. Then Uber and food delivery came and they’re all subcontractors and severely struggle with that. And tomorrow someone else is going to make their lives hard.

            Fighting for privacy is the same thing. The moment we have some small victory, they try to push (for example) for internet surveillance a different way and it starts again. You decide if you want to fight or accept it.

            And philosophy hasn’t settled this either, so yo can’t say it’s dumb. Some people say you have to stand your ground. Fight for your ideals and morals. For who you are or what you stive for. No matter if chances are slim. Some are pushovers. Some people need to pick their fights. And there are other opinions out there. But just that something sems inevitable, doesn’t mean resistance is dumb per se. But I’ll wholeheartedlyagree that some forms of fighting it are dumb, and people won’t succeed with that.