• presoak@lazysoci.al
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    4 days ago

    If you disagree with the whole concept then agreeing is patronizing. And we wouldn’t want that.

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      3 days ago

      Nope that’s just lying, or maybe gaslighting depending on your agenda. I’m not asking you to do that.

      Patronizing is acting superior toward those who are not as good at something, whether it’s knowledge or ability.

      It’s okay you disagree with the whole concept of trans people. You’ll surely get there if only you listen to the relevant scientists and the trans people themselves.

      Or in a less patronizing way… Your disagreement is irrational, and very likely makes you a bigot. Assuming you care not to be a bigot toward a whole cohort of vulnerable people, I’d be more than happy to help.

      (I’ve definitely used a bit of manipulative language still, but I’ve done so honestly. I don’t think I’ve ever talked an anti-trans person on the internet into being an ally. But the leading reason anyone should at least care to let them be, is because they think they’re a good person .)

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        3 days ago

        You believe that you have truth in hand, and reject lying, but any who disagree must be accused of bigotry. Well that’s a tight knot for sure.

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          2 days ago

          You’re the one who asked if it’s bigoted to use the wrong pronoun. The answer was yes, assuming the “right” one is the one the trans person asks you to use - their “preferred pronoun”, and you refuse.

          You disagree with the “whole concept” which I must assume includes preferred pronouns, ergo I assume you refuse to use trans people’s preferred pronouns, ergo bigot.

          If any of my assumptions are wrong, do let me know.

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              2 days ago

              Your claim to simplicity is bullshit. If you disagree wholesale with gay rights, you’re a bigot. Likewise with trans rights.

              Or do you not actually disagree with “the whole concept” of either of these?

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                  2 days ago

                  Lol what strawmen?

                  You’re like a teenager who discovered logical fallacies. You haven’t made an argument mate. You’re just asserting your disbelief without any rational basis for doing so.

                  It’s as much any one else’s right to assume you’ve got some bigoted agenda. Clearly it isn’t the facts that guide you or you’d have something worthwhile to contribute to the conversation.