Unfortunately, this unusual tameness was used to their disadvantage: as Darwin notes, men “frequently killed them in the evening, by holding out a piece of meat in one hand, and in the other a knife ready to stick them.”
Also the steller’s sea cow
Within 27 years of its discovery by Europeans, the slow-moving and easily-caught mammal was hunted into extinction for its meat, fat, and hide.
A part of the Christian imperialist worldview, the idea that ‘Man is above animal and they were created by God to be used as Man sees fit’, has been the cause of endless horrors. Without this human-supremacist view they would treat other people better too, even if their enemies were ‘subhuman’, if they had compassion for animals.
It makes me think of the connection between ‘masculinity’ and eating meat in the West. It’s seen as effeminate to eat vegetables or be vegan, this idea helps reinforce a worldview centered on violence and exploitation.
Rare to come across someone who has an understanding of the indigineous / the original way that our ancestors saw our relationship with life on Earth.
I’m not at all shocked that a lot of men now feel lost under the dominant world view. Since the industrial revolution, masculinity has become defined as taking more than you need at a cost that your descendants will need to pay (through harm that you bring to the Earth). That type of imbalance will inevitably promote a lack of purpose.
While it’s true that Christian imperialism is environmentally destructive, hunting species to extinction predates both Christianity and white people. Every continent suffered mass extinctions pretty much the moment the humans set foot there for the first time.
The invention of agriculture provided a huge material impetus to destroy predator populations and as far back as the neolithic revolution humans conducted the mass burning of forests and wild habitat to clear room for farms.
Yes, it starts with civilization in general. But Christian imperialism sure sent it into overdrive.
With the advent of agriculture and domestication of animals, humans began to believe that they hold dominion over nature. Perhaps that was inevitable. But it’s that worldview that has us hurling down a path of irreversible climate change that may lead to our (and others) extinction.
a whole fukken species of cool friends but the kkkolonizers couldn’t help themselves
it looks so cute 😭
Milo on trashfuture has a bit about the falkland islands being almost made in a lab to make the brits seem not entirely evil; an island that was genuinely terra nullius. Of course they would still somehow find a way to do a genocide anyways.
an island that was genuinely terra nullius
The island was visited by native Patagonians who likely introduced said wolf to the islands. The Yahgan people who were renowned seafarers might also have temporarily lived on the islands. The french & spanish were there before the british. The chauvinism is off the charts.
lot of chauvinist brainworms on there between him, Nova and Hussein
I finally unsubbed after Hussein’s reaction to the GHF was ‘now bad countries like Russia will do genocide!’
the link between imperialism and environmental damage will forever remain strong
While it is a subset of imperialism, colonialism and the extractionary systems it created in the global south in order to bankroll the industrial revolution is deserving of a special shout out.
Poor guys, they looked so cute.
Same thing almost happened with the Kakapo, a flightless parrot that has no natural predators and was very docile and friendly.
yeah but the kakopo got its revenge eventually
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You see the ridge here in the white skull? That makes them predisposed to murdering defenseless creatures.
this but ironically. “whites are genetically predisposed to violence and barbarism” is the simplest yet truest explanation of the course of world history since 1492, if not before
i’m white
The amount of cool shit we’ve lost due to greedy white dudes is annoying
The same for dodo’s
Nearly happened to the Galapagos tortoise too, but they were saved just in the nick of time when conservation efforts got serious in the 1970s. They used to be a favorite of English sailors who would stack them upside-down in their ships because they would stay alive for months and provide a ready freshly killed meal whenever they were hungry. The “Age of Discovery” is basically European colonialists committing unspeakable crimes upon every new habitat and population they stumbled across.
o damn that is quite recently, for the dodo it was done at the end of the 17th century. it only took about 30 years for the dutch to destroy such a magnificent bird
And apparently they didn’t even enjoy it; the taste of the meat was bad.
I wonder if there’s still people on this site who think the Malvinas belong to Perfidious Albion
since they apparently didn’t displace indigenous people i struggle to justify it not being up to the people who live there.
but i also think
shouldn’t get any claim to territorial waters or whatever from it.No Natives on the islands, no, but insofar as the status quo upholds imperialism in Latin America, it also screws over the Natives of Latin America, too.
since they apparently didn’t displace indigenous people i struggle to justify it not being up to the people who live there.
If one day the UK ever grant them independece they will 100% be forced to join Argentina, no one in the Global South cares about them and most countries in Latin America have organized a boycott of doing business with the islands. It’s going to be just like the Panama Canal, with the Zonians returning to the US and the Panama goverment replacing the empty colony with locals.
I would say this is somewhat similar to the Guayana Essequibo Conflict, but Venezuela actually granted citizenship to everyone that lives in the Essequibo region (probably because unlike the Falklands, 100k people live there and have nowhere to go).
There was a struggle sessions last year about it. I think something along the lines of Argentine chauvinism and how the islands were “empty”. They kinda forgot that the UK will use these islands to colonize Antarctica.
The thing I would’ve focused more on is how the islands have a military installation of a NATO country right on the doorstep of Latin America, I’d honestly never even considered the possibility of colonizing Antarctica.
That too. In fact it was actually used as a base to neo-colonize the newly independent Argentine confederation. I think almost all latin american countries have semi-legal claims on Antarctica through spanish colonization or something.
Treaty of Tordesilla still applies!
I could be wrong, but only Chile and Argentina have claims on Antarctica, the other LatAm countries just have bases inside these areas.
Brazil; Uruguay; Colombia, Peru & Ecuador - its called the defrontación theory.
Same with French Guyana, which is literally a colony of France and should probably gain independence.
It used to be the place were they would send prisoners to die basically.
Yes, but France also used it to invade and harass Brazil (1890s - 1970s). Only recently, since Macron and Lula da Silva seem to be friends, have they built a bridge between Brazil and the Colony.
I’d honestly never even considered the possibility of colonizing Antarctica.
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While the war was a huge mistake and the Junta didn’t started it out of some anti-imperialism feeling (They kept the best troops along the border with Chile, and sent out 18 year old conscripts to die in the Falklands). Literally everyone in Latin America, but Chile, supported Argentina.
Even to this day, all South American countries refuse to sell stuff to people who lives in the Falklands since most LatAm countries sees it as occupied territory.
Well the fact that the Falkland population voted over 99% in favor of being British was also brought up, but keep on trucking.
The referenda are such a strange thing, because London had secretly discussed handing the islands to Argentina in both the 1960s and (antebellum) 1980s, more or less without regard for what the Falklanders themselves wanted. But even without our current knowledge of Britain’s past secretive discussions of a potential Malvinas handover — and there’s a pretty good chance that we/I don’t even know the full history of these discussions now — one of the through-lines of any empire’s history is that the metropole always has a wholly transactional relationship to its colonies, without any real respect for “the will of the people”.
So basically, by voting to remain British, the Falklanders’ self-determination is to have their self-determination violated: that’s the only possible outcome of remaining part of an empire that will sell you off as soon as it becomes more convenient for them: that it will inevitably become more convenient for them at some point. So the two referenda gave the Falklanders a choice between becoming Argentine now, or becoming Argentine later: get out of bed, or hit the snooze button.
So basically, by voting to remain British, the Falklanders’ self-determination is to have their self-determination violated: that’s the only possible outcome of remaining part of an empire that will sell you off as soon as it becomes more convenient for them: that it will inevitably become more convenient for them at some point. So the two referenda gave the Falklanders a choice between becoming Argentine now, or becoming Argentine later: get out of bed, or hit the snooze button.
yeah but it’s like a 40 year snooze button, and that’s permanent enough for most people.
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I believe before the Junta, the previous goverments in Argentina were negociating something very similar to the Panama Canal Handover/Torrijos-Carter Treaties, with the British granting the islands back to Argentina, since Argentina was already supplying the Island with food, oil and energy.
No guarantee they’d be sold off to Argentina. The sea territory is valuable enough that any major power would happily take them. It would be particularly funny to sell them to Chile or Brazil
Yes all 20 of the falklanders voted to stay, including the 15 Brits
I bet the soldiers at Diego Garcia would vote to stay too
The Falklanders of Argentine descent also voted to stay British. You can condemn them morally for desiring to be British, but the people of the Falklands are not occupied, and attacking it was not a liberation struggle. Argentinas only claim to the territory is that it’s next to theirs, which it really isn’t and you wouldn’t accept in any other situation anyway. You can argue that as Brits they don’t have human rights and should abandon the island to leave it to the penguins, but that still wouldn’t make the area Argentinian.
as Brits they don’t have human rights and should abandon the island to leave it to the penguins
Oh no that’s my take too. If you make a positive choice to be a brit, especially of a colonial outpost, you need to go back to britain.
According to even the UN the Falklands are a colony, so even the mild libs agree with my position. Besides kicking out the natives and filling regions with settlers and then proclaiming that the locals want to keep being a colony is peak colonizer behaviour. France does as well in Kanaky and Mayotte.
There is no “native” population besides the penguins. They didnt kick out Argentinians or indigenous people to make room for Brits. You’re just wrong
so even the mild libs agree with my position
No. That’s not what that means. It’s a list of dependent territories that do not have an internal government. Not a list of territories that should be made independent or handed over to other countries.
t’s a list of dependent territories that do not have an internal government. Not a list of territories that should be made independent or handed over to other countries.
Damn I wonder why the Special Committee on Decolonization is in charge of maintaining that list.
They belong to the penguins
Real, “ITS COMMING RIGHT FOR US”, hours.
It really is sad. There are animals I would have loved to see that were driven to extinction by entirely man made forces. It’s heinous. I want to give that nice wolf pets 😟
Also, non-vegans shouldn’t be allowed to get mad over this tbh.
Sucks enough reading about it, I’m surprised you would want to actually watch them being driven to extinction so much.
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