Unfortunately, this unusual tameness was used to their disadvantage: as Darwin notes, men “frequently killed them in the evening, by holding out a piece of meat in one hand, and in the other a knife ready to stick them.”
Unfortunately, this unusual tameness was used to their disadvantage: as Darwin notes, men “frequently killed them in the evening, by holding out a piece of meat in one hand, and in the other a knife ready to stick them.”
There was a struggle sessions last year about it. I think something along the lines of Argentine chauvinism and how the islands were “empty”. They kinda forgot that the UK will use these islands to colonize Antarctica.
The thing I would’ve focused more on is how the islands have a military installation of a NATO country right on the doorstep of Latin America, I’d honestly never even considered the possibility of colonizing Antarctica.
That too. In fact it was actually used as a base to neo-colonize the newly independent Argentine confederation. I think almost all latin american countries have semi-legal claims on Antarctica through spanish colonization or something.
Treaty of Tordesilla still applies!
I could be wrong, but only Chile and Argentina have claims on Antarctica, the other LatAm countries just have bases inside these areas.
Brazil; Uruguay; Colombia, Peru & Ecuador - its called the defrontación theory.
Same with French Guyana, which is literally a colony of France and should probably gain independence.
It used to be the place were they would send prisoners to die basically.
Yes, but France also used it to invade and harass Brazil (1890s - 1970s). Only recently, since Macron and Lula da Silva seem to be friends, have they built a bridge between Brazil and the Colony.
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While the war was a huge mistake and the Junta didn’t started it out of some anti-imperialism feeling (They kept the best troops along the border with Chile, and sent out 18 year old conscripts to die in the Falklands). Literally everyone in Latin America, but Chile, supported Argentina.
Even to this day, all South American countries refuse to sell stuff to people who lives in the Falklands since most LatAm countries sees it as occupied territory.
Well the fact that the Falkland population voted over 99% in favor of being British was also brought up, but keep on trucking.
Yes all 20 of the falklanders voted to stay, including the 15 Brits
I bet the soldiers at Diego Garcia would vote to stay too
The Falklanders of Argentine descent also voted to stay British. You can condemn them morally for desiring to be British, but the people of the Falklands are not occupied, and attacking it was not a liberation struggle. Argentinas only claim to the territory is that it’s next to theirs, which it really isn’t and you wouldn’t accept in any other situation anyway. You can argue that as Brits they don’t have human rights and should abandon the island to leave it to the penguins, but that still wouldn’t make the area Argentinian.
Oh no that’s my take too. If you make a positive choice to be a brit, especially of a colonial outpost, you need to go back to britain.
According to even the UN the Falklands are a colony, so even the mild libs agree with my position. Besides kicking out the natives and filling regions with settlers and then proclaiming that the locals want to keep being a colony is peak colonizer behaviour. France does as well in Kanaky and Mayotte.
There is no “native” population besides the penguins. They didnt kick out Argentinians or indigenous people to make room for Brits. You’re just wrong
No. That’s not what that means. It’s a list of dependent territories that do not have an internal government. Not a list of territories that should be made independent or handed over to other countries.
Damn I wonder why the Special Committee on Decolonization is in charge of maintaining that list.
Man I wonder why the list of dependent territories without internal governments would be maintained by the organization for listing dependent territories. That sure means that the official approved lib position was that Alaska should be handed back to Russia until 1959 or something. The average lib was cool enough to say that the US should hand over territory to the USSR. That’s how this works, right? The page SAYS WHAT ITS A LIST OF.
They get removed if they have an internal government no matter how colonised they are. Or are we going to pretend Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Greenland aren’t colonised?
Was part of the list. And is going to be added back in very likely.
And secondly I literally stated that the even the LIB version of a colonial definition agreed with me that the falklands are a colony. You are moving the goalpost, take a breath and self crit why you are so invested in british colonialism and chauvinism.
The referenda are such a strange thing, because London had secretly discussed handing the islands to Argentina in both the 1960s and (antebellum) 1980s, more or less without regard for what the Falklanders themselves wanted. But even without our current knowledge of Britain’s past secretive discussions of a potential Malvinas handover — and there’s a pretty good chance that we/I don’t even know the full history of these discussions now — one of the through-lines of any empire’s history is that the metropole always has a wholly transactional relationship to its colonies, without any real respect for “the will of the people”.
So basically, by voting to remain British, the Falklanders’ self-determination is to have their self-determination violated: that’s the only possible outcome of remaining part of an empire that will sell you off as soon as it becomes more convenient for them: that it will inevitably become more convenient for them at some point. So the two referenda gave the Falklanders a choice between becoming Argentine now, or becoming Argentine later: get out of bed, or hit the snooze button.
yeah but it’s like a 40 year snooze button, and that’s permanent enough for most people.
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I believe before the Junta, the previous goverments in Argentina were negociating something very similar to the Panama Canal Handover/Torrijos-Carter Treaties, with the British granting the islands back to Argentina, since Argentina was already supplying the Island with food, oil and energy.
No guarantee they’d be sold off to Argentina. The sea territory is valuable enough that any major power would happily take them. It would be particularly funny to sell them to Chile or Brazil