I think when it comes to blocking people, I can see some improvement there. I’m all about the idea of not adding fuel to the fire in the form of pointless online arguments and conflicts.
I see so many online platforms just fucking fail at the ways they try approaching that issue. Most places would let you block a user but they can still see everything that the blocked user has said. Like that opens the doors to exploiting and archiving. It is one thing if you’re logged out and can see things site-wide than it is still being logged in and seeing what was said.
When I block someone, I want to be a ghost to them. I want them to not see anything I’ve said and I wouldn’t want to see anything they’ve said either. I don’t want to block them and find out they engage me on an alt just with things to continue the bullshit with.
I think the Fediverse has corrected that aspect that, when you log off, you can’t see shit. So it prevents that. Though that’s practiced from the instance I’m on for all I know.
However, when logged in and still blocking people, they can still see what was said by those who blocked them.
Furthermore and this is a bit of a controversial part, is that, I think moderation logs to be open is a bad idea. Again, it is to me, just one more thing to add to the fuel of a fire that isn’t being let to wind down. Because people often jab and joust at others with shit like “LOOK WHUT U DID IN THUH MODERATION LOG!” and that just does nothing but escalate.
I think with some of these kinds of corrections, would promote the idea of a healthier ecosystem for the community.
The Fediverse could improve how things are shared. If I wanted to share your post with a friend, I’ll give them this link: https://piefed.ca/c/asklemmy/p/424338/what-do-you-feel-the-fediverse-could-improve-on.
If they’re also on the same instance as me (Piefed.ca), then all’s good. But God forbid they’re on another instance and they want to comment or vote on your post. They would have to go back to their own instance, find this community, and then search for this specific post.
And I know some of you guys are itching to tell me about using a browser extension/script or another front-end to fix this, but this should be officially integrated with every front-end. I don’t understand why there still hasn’t been any integration with something like Threadiverse.
How can a social media grow if you can’t even share posts properly?
Onboarding is a nightmare. Any other changes we make are pointless until we address onboarding.
I don’t recommend it to non-techie friends and family for this reason.
Neither do I.
The moment I say ‘Lemmy’ or ‘Fediverse’, it is over their heads. That’s how much work the fediverse itself has go to, to make it more accessible.
Yes. Piefed is just as bad. I can see the confusion on their faces as soon as I say it and I don’t blame them.
Mark as spoiler in addition to Mark as NSFW
I’m new here. I’d like to be able to find communities by size (ie. locate the ones that actually are used).
You can do this on piefed with the community browser.
Thank you, this was EXTREMELY helpful.
I think there needs to be a higher emphasis on real life community building instead of recreating the services that destroyed communities.
We don’t need another twitter clone. We need a marketplace and volunteer organizing software.
I can easily imagine tiny towns, neighborhoods (and even apartments) using a Mastodon server to create a community based social media. Now, whether people would WANT to use that, and if it would just turn into NextDoor, are separate issues.
I think those are great ideas. Event planning is a general-purpose app that can be leveraged for mobilizing political groups. I don’t think there’s really anything like Facebook Groups, unless Friendica has some of that.
Consolidated frontend for communities to federate their own community with.
Stop with 20 different versions of memes.
One channel to federate the community to a common feed.
And mods may police the feed as they see fit.You can make your own feeds that combine communities on Piefed. No moderator policing though. Not sure what you mean there.
Say mods prohibit links to piracy sites but allow discussion, the mods can moderate the content.
But that front end problem is so typical… :p
Well there are also topics, which are instance admin controlled.
And Piefed moderators can implement URL blocking that could include piracy site sources that would block the entire instance from seeing content from pirate sites.
Problem is…Piefed exclusive.
So doesnt help the FedieverseWell okay, but if these functions didn’t exist at all - they would only begin to exist on one particular piece of software on the Fediverse at some point initially. As has happened here.
Why is it in my many decades of online discussion I have never blocked anyone, yet I see people who somehow think they need it?
Why?
You cant just move on or ignore them? I find it so weird.
I agree. A lot of people are proud of their 100-user-long blocklist. Seems like a weird thing to boast about, to me.
Less of a problem on lemmy but mastodon has a lot of accounts posting anime pictures that are not necessarily illegal but are weird - like children dressed as animals or with animal features.
Not sure if there’s anything you can do about people just being weird but often other users will boost a different post by the account, which will be a meme or something, so the accounts end up on your timeline. If you click through to see more similar memes you get greeted with a profile where they are clearly not a teen but are pretending to be one or similar…
idk I suppose my complaint is that the culture is overly tolerant of creepy behaviour.
Discoverability; both with posts and following.
Also, nuclear blocking and feeds/lists are two things that Bluesky gets right.
Marketplace. I would love to see the fediverse put Amazon store out of business. …I know, I know…delusional. But wouldn’t it be cool?
A global landing page that let’s people join from, asks them some basic questions and selects a server based on those answers wall while explaining in laymen’s tense why. Then when the user finishes signing up presents them with a printable page of their login (user ID, server, etc.) for them to keep in their records and a button to take them straight in.
Hell, add fediserach somewhere in there as well.
People need an information kiosk
Someone could make this today. In fact, it probably already exists, but how would you find it? Also, how would the service catalog instances without being an instance itself and federating? And at that point why not just join that instance? Doesn’t having a “front page” for the whole fediverse kind of defeat decentralization? I feel like every aspect of these apps runs counter to that happening.
I really don’t know how - or even if - the “discoverability” issue will be solved. I also don’t know if it needs a solution. I’ve been enjoying the slow drip of organically discovering neat little comms. It’s almost exactly like the Internet used to be imo.
So, I look at this how I first saw the fediverse. There was a promise of collaboration, a united against monopolistic tech companies that originally drew me in, but how it worked was not clearly explained and I didn’t really understand until much after joining Lemmy, most users don’t care for the complexity and while you are correct that a cetralized Lemmy would go against the purpose of the fediverse, my idea would be of a communal lobby not one ran from a single instance but as a collaboration between the biggest instances. It only would display a catalog of instances and use API endpoints to create a new users account. The feddisearch already exists and could just be either linked to this page or also pulled in using an API if possible. Management would be handled by the owners of all member instances as well as financing.
I guess the question finally falls in do we want to go up against the big tech companies and improve the internet, or just want to exist inone of the Internet’s corners and be left alone?
Yeah I hear you. I was mostly playing devil’s advocate with my questions. I think your idea is very interesting, I just wouldn’t expect Lemmy devs to pick it up.
That’s the neat thing of open source, they technically don’t have to. The community can do it as well.
User profiles could be a little bit more consistent and cleaner and allow for better interlinking and descriptions. I currently have my main profile at mastodon and I just link my other profiles there, but whether linking back there works from those profiles is anyone’s guess.
It’s a bit of a toss-up what profile text even supports on any particular service, sometimes it’s even dependant on what the client decides to do. Some allow Mastodon-style custom fields, some don’t. Some allow you to (e.g.) put links to your other profiles, some just render whatever you put there as a text - except, say, on some mobile client for some reason, where it decides to link mastodon-style user names. Some services are ridiculously minimalist (looking at you, Pixelfed - I know the main focus is on the user galleries, but oh no, how dare I want to learn anything about the people who take the photos).
Also you see things like people putting long alt-texts of their profile pics and banner pics in the descriptions - folks, wouldn’t it be cooler if the software supported actual alt-text for those?
Exposure maybe? How to attract new eyeballs. Idk how either.
I’d like it if there were little indications about whether post OP upvoted or downvoted a comment, and whether the author of a comment I’m replying to upvoted or downvoted my reply.
The influx of new users in the last 4 months has shown me there needs to be some disincentive for posting the same regurgitated sentiment-based shit that you see every time you log in. Regurgitated sentiments and memes represent 95% of the content… yes AI bad… Israel bad… Cheese powder face man bad… I feel depressed… I can’t afford a house… robots took my job. How many times can we as a community re-state what we already know to be true.
This is Reddit 2.0 let’s not kid ourselves.
This is Reddit 2.0 let’s not kid ourselves.
What exactly were you expecting? I think the only one kidding themselves is you
Are we in the same reality? No, because the question is what do we need to do to make the Fediverse better.
You being here isn’t one of those things apparently.
It wouldn’t be reddit 2.0 without complaints like this about popular social concerns being popular on social media.
